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Posted: August 22 2015 at 19:36
yeah.. I think Dave nearly fell out of his chair I almost started laughing out loud. That came completely from left field near the end of a completely generic funeral service.....you are going to HELL!!
The funny thing was.. a nice sweet old man.. works with the elderly.. and his wasn't even a damn Baptist. I told you about the time the Spawn of Satan and I went looking for a church.. to do that respectability thing.. an ex-Catholic and ex-Mormon.. so we decided to go to a Southern Baptist service.
Good god almighty... now that was some fire and brimstone.. you are going to hell kind of sh*t man. Being the heady sinners we both were.. we ran.. not walked our asses out of that church.
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No worries. It is not so important WHAT do you listen, more important is HOW do you listen it. As atheist I can to listen for example Dies Irae, but I am not able to take it as God's warning, it is one from nice fantasy themes for ahteists, so I am son of perdition from a Christian perspective.
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Posted: August 23 2015 at 03:42
Wanted by RPWL is a whole album rallying against religion. Some lyrics...
"Perfect Day"
Take me to the place
Where we are more than just believing
Take me to the place
Where the world is more than self-deceiving
Now is the time
That comes once in a lifetime
Come on and take the chance to set things right
Now is the time
To step into new life
This will be our chance to see the light
"The Attack"
We have a base in every part of the world
Wait for the sign it’s time to be heard
Did you believe we wouldn’t unmask the lie
Your concept of god vs the concept of life
Your sick morality distorts what Is true
Instead of health we find salvation of souls
Sin is the main idea to keep them in line
To single one out, condemn another to die
"New Dawn"
A new dawn of the universe
That gave a new age birth
A new story to be heard
Paradise on earth
No god who divides us all heavenly fear is gone
It’s been long long time but at last
The world is as one
And the spirits caged in minds
Too much fear that makes us blind
I call that religious
Repressing difference building walls
No tolerance at all
That’s what I call religious
A business rotten to the core
To fleece the people, take control
I call that religious
There’s nothing more than just belief
Talking advantage of your needs
That’s what I call religious
"Disbelief"
This is your god, god of love On condition of belief, belief in lies here lies no truth, Truth can never be your creed, You believe what you’re allowed not for want of what you need
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Posted: August 25 2015 at 03:38
Mmmhhh!!!.. Haven't seen many examples about atheism itself in this thread. Most of what I saw/heard is mostly attacks against religions (whiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiich is fine by me, BTW)
micky wrote:
Raff wrote:
micky wrote:
SteveG wrote:
Music for atheists or people going to hell according to your beliefs or a lack thereof.
that is too funny... we went to a funeral today and we were told we were going to hell!
Now that was a helluva of a send off man
Yes, at one point - during the final sermon, or message, or whatever it was called - the pastor said that those who don't accept Jesus Christ as their Lord are going to hell. I think I hadn't heard anything of the sort for at least three decades (probably more). The funniest thing is one of the people who were present (and who happens to be Micky's boss) is Jewish... So much for tolerance and open-mindedness.
yeah.. I think Dave nearly fell out of his chair I almost started laughing out loud. That came completely from left field near the end of a completely generic funeral service.....you are going to HELL!!
The funny thing was.. a nice sweet old man.. works with the elderly.. and his wasn't even a damn Baptist. I told you about the time the Spawn of Satan and I went looking for a church.. to do that respectability thing.. an ex-Catholic and ex-Mormon.. so we decided to go to a Southern Baptist service.
Good god almighty... now that was some fire and brimstone.. you are going to hell kind of sh*t man. Being the heady sinners we both were.. we ran.. not walked our asses out of that church.
thing is that even if atheists would be wrong, and there would be a judgment day, they would probably get to heaven quicker than most believers, because we've led a saner life.... Like not wasting out times in churches adoring some guy that their ancestors put on cross.... bloody pagans
Pretty sure that an almost totally-unlikely-possible god would actually hate all those hypocrits praying and loving him out of fear
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Posted: August 25 2015 at 08:57
Sean Trane wrote:
thing is that even if atheists would be wrong, and there would be a judgment day, they would probably get to heaven quicker than most believers, because we've led a saner life....
As one that believes in universal reconciliation this statement is really odd to me.
The only actual "evil" religious people are the ones that use their religion to control other people, to gain power, and to use it as an excuse to cause pain in others.
It's easy to dismiss people as hypocritical but often this is just how they are brainwashed and they do not know any better.
I like to think that God is way more forgiving than this.
But to be on topic, there are TONS of bands that are Anton Lavey Satanists (non-theistic Satanists), which basically amounts to self-worship.
Then, I would say that self-worship is probably the most atheistic belief.
So... Kanye West, Jay-Z, every single hip-hop artist ever that has written a song about being God, Ke$ha, Katy Perry, Beyonce, etc etc etc etc. Those that promote self-worship are probably the most atheist-type musicians to me.
I'm not sure there is music specifically designed for atheists - nor believers for that matter. Isn't music supposed to be above all that sh*te? I mean, I adore the new Algiers album that quite openly combines two very odd bedfellows in gospel and post-punk, yet I find the music incredibly inspiring and beautiful no matter what is being alluded to. Sure there are xceptions to everything, and I hate being preached to from a piedestal, but hell man just listen to the music! I don't get my panties in a twist whenever I hear all the hallelujas on Popol Vuh's Seligpreisung, and I don't subscribe to any religion.
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Posted: August 25 2015 at 09:53
Guldbamsen wrote:
I'm not sure there is music specifically designed for atheists - nor believers for that matter. Isn't music supposed to be above all that sh*te? I mean, I adore the new Algiers album that quite openly combines two very odd bedfellows in gospel and post-punk, yet I find the music incredibly inspiring and beautiful no matter what is being alluded to. Sure there are xceptions to everything, and I hate being preached to from a piedestal, but hell man just listen to the music! I don't get my panties in a twist whenever I hear all the hallelujas on Popol Vuh's Seligpreisung, and I don't subscribe to any religion.
I don't think anyone who posted here got their panties in a twist David. This post is more correctly anti religion (which is the atheists watchword), and any music is certainly not above that sh*te. And never has been or ever will be.
There is also a post for theists that want equal time. Music can be democratic. It's the part about being devoid of social or political comment that I find suspect.
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Posted: August 27 2015 at 09:16
Smurph wrote:
The only actual "evil" religious people are the ones that use their religion to control other people, to gain power, and to use it as an excuse to cause pain in others.
It's easy to dismiss people as hypocritical but often this is just how they are brainwashed and they do not know any better.
Then, I would say that self-worship is probably the most atheistic belief.
isn't that the goal of religion, though?? To control the masses through their fears and superstitions in order to get political ascendence or the gullible believers...
I know what you're getting at.... But have those believers no brains to think for themselves?? Of course they do!! They choose to be part of the herd because there is safety in numbers
Totally disagree... I call that selfishness. Atheism is more about individualism, than putting yourself forward
Guldbamsen wrote:
I'm not sure there is music specifically designed for atheists - nor believers for that matter. Isn't music supposed to be above all that sh*te? I mean, I adore the new Algiers album that quite openly combines two very odd bedfellows in gospel and post-punk, yet I find the music incredibly inspiring and beautiful no matter what is being alluded to. Sure there are xceptions to everything, and I hate being preached to from a piedestal, but hell man just listen to the music! I don't get my panties in a twist whenever I hear all the hallelujas on Popol Vuh's Seligpreisung, and I don't subscribe to any religion.
I don't think there is... Because Atheists wouldn't feel catered by it if it ever existed at all. In a way, that's the point: atheism is about nothing (IMHO, anyway)
Again IMHO, but there are no such thing as "believers" in atheism, there are only "knowers" about nothing... Believers are gullibles
BTW, I love Popol Vuh's esoteric music, and TBH, I find Carmina Burana and and a few other "religious chants" quite enthralling.
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Posted: August 27 2015 at 11:19
Atheist (note the correct spelling of the word ) music is better known as secular music, i.e. music that is not influenced by religious or spiritual matters.
Of course there is religious music that is non-theist, and that would be of a non-god specific spiritual nature, Prog is not immune from the kind of post-hippy "child of the universe" kind of lyric that has since been associated with the New Age movement.
Except in circumstances where the lyrics of the music are overly proselytising, I would imagine that most atheists are both receptive to, and tolerant of, religious music so "Music for Atheists" would be better described as just "Music".
However, I doubt that is what Steve is looking for here (hence my earlier post of Tim Minchin's comedic anti-theist ditties - though whether any of those actually fit the requirement is debatable), but as Hugues rightly says, atheists don't have (spiritual) beliefs, nor do they slavishly believe in science as some theists would claim. Even if we cite Banco's "Darwin!", this isn't an album of atheist music since evolution as a scientific principle is supported by many religious groups.
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I almost started laughing out loud. That came completely from left field near the end of a completely generic funeral service.....you are going to HELL!!
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