How is this Prog?

OOOOOooooooooohhhh!!!!!! So obvious!

Uh, shall I throw the first stone? There are several Jazz artists that to me its just jazz and have nothing to do with progressive rock. Miles Davies, for example. But we can add even Hermeto Pascoal.

They have absolutely no conection with rock nor what was conected with Progressive Rock. Unless this is also a Jazz archive, I never understand their adition.

According to the PA Prog hierarchy, Jazz Rock/Fusion is a separate genre of prog and thus as a founding artist of jazz rock/fusion Miles Davis is included.  The catch is that even though he is included for that middle career batch of albums, his entire discography gets to come along for the ride.

rushfan4 wrote: According to the PA Prog hierarchy, Jazz Rock/Fusion is a separate genre of prog and thus as a founding artist of jazz rock/fusion Miles Davis is included.  The catch is that even though he is included for that middle career batch of albums, his entire discography gets to come along for the ride.

Got it.

But is still strange to see his 1959 album in the top 100 of PA...

Catcher10 wrote: ...and of course the two doo-hickeys above the O cement them as prog-related

Yes, because it influenced Motorhead and Queensryche, who later added two doohickeys. 

SteveG wrote: Raff wrote: BOC were included because of their music, not because of the Moorcock connection to Hawkwind. As I have all of their albums, I believe I am in a position to judge. I don't think anyone in their right mind would claim that "Don't Fear the Reaper" is prog-related - but songs such as "7 Screamin' Dizbuster", "The Subhuman", "Monsters" and "Veteran of the Psychic Wars" certainly are. I have all their albums too Raff, and I even have a personal relationship with one of their former producers, but they are a stretch to me as far as being prog related. But as Rushfan pointed out, I can understand that you had your fill of this topic in the past and I can respect that.

Yes, I did, and then some. Things got ugly, with personal insults thrown around - something that fortunately doesn't happen any longer. Personally, I believe that additions one disagrees with should be ignored, but then I seem to be in a minority.

The thing is, one either trusts the people around you to make an educated and carefully considered decision, or one does not.   That trust must be there or things don't work.

It isn't the world at all--  it's the internet

Atavachron wrote: It isn't the world at all--  it's the internet

Oh yeah.

A concept album with heavy metal songs about a drug controlled kid named Nicky that does things against his will. It's a good story if you can follow it, but does creating a concept around metal songs make this album prog? And the group progressive metal? How is this Prog?

Edited by SteveG - August 12 2015 at 12:13

Gully Foyle wrote: rushfan4 wrote: Two types come to mind:  1) Anything that is minimalist or ambient. 2) Artists that are just guitar, bass, and drums.  No keyboards or synths included; no winds or brass instruments either. you mean like Rush for much of the time?

Touche.    I was referring to some of the more modern metal bands with one or two albums under their belts, but yes, I suppose that Rush would fall under this category to a certain extent.