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Hey, anyone up for a good game of fennel?

I just got the Steve Wilson remaster of Thick As a Brick and quite frankly it's like hearing it afresh all over again after 40+ years. Same goes for A Passion Play. It's as if TAAB were a parody of English town life, and APP explores what happens when a resident of said town loses his head in a wreck and flees the icy lucifer.

I always felt Tull lost its way starting with Minstrel in the Gallery (still with its good parts) but when Ian Anderson became a full-blown twee folkster, we parted ways. To each his own.

Dark Elf, great interpretation!

I'am a historian and have a great passion (pun intended) for medieval history, so, everything that connects APP with that is welcome. I have a "theory" to call "The Hare that Lost its Spectacles" a christian exemplum - a small story, full of moral content that delivers a message with the intent to construct some truth (christian truth, god itslef, etc).

Have you buyed the Boxset "A Passion Play an extended Performance"? That is a chapter in there, the memoirs of Godfrey Pilchard (you'll have to read to understand) that kinda corroborates what you just wrote!
And a lot of what I based my interpretation come from the interview of Jeffrey Hammond about the Hare. Seriously, the box is a must have.

- From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.

Oh boy... I dont care about tities. LOL

- From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.

Barbu wrote:

Can we talk about titties now?

Are there titties mentioned in APP.....or some pics I missed in the album sleeve? Where..?

One does nothing yet nothing is left undone.
Haquin

^All the more reason to keep abreast of this titillating topic.

...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined
to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology...

ive been listening to a bootleg from 73 pretty much nonstop - its titled 'A Live Passion'. If you dig APP, and don't have this, you need to get your mitts on it quick. Sound quality is what it is, but is not bad.

But, APP is plainly a piece to be heard live. I liked APP fine for decades, found it maybe a little underwhelming from a production standpoint, and a little off in many ways. It was obviously an ambitious project, but i felt it just didnt reach what it was shooting for.

Then I heard this concert - and it breathes, and works, and is just fantastic. Also, insanity on the kit from Mr. Barlow.

Have you folks heard this?

Is this one?

- From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.

The Dark Elf wrote:

Rednight wrote:

The Dark Elf wrote:

In 45 years of listening to Tull I have never heard anyone come to that conclusion.

So my experience with someone who did never happened. How arrogant, 'Elf.

Arrogant? Considering you cannot even offer literary context or historical perspective for making the claim, I will deftly drop the Manson idea into the "Someone pulled it out of their ass" circular file.

Well, look at you.

"It just has none of the qualities of your work that I find interesting. Abandon [?] it." - Eno

Rednight wrote:

The Dark Elf wrote:

Rednight wrote:

The Dark Elf wrote:

In 45 years of listening to Tull I have never heard anyone come to that conclusion.

So my experience with someone who did never happened. How arrogant, 'Elf.

Arrogant? Considering you cannot even offer literary context or historical perspective for making the claim, I will deftly drop the Manson idea into the "Someone pulled it out of their ass" circular file.

Well, look at you.

No, look at you and your half-baked comment. You come in from left field saying you heard that specified lines from APP involved Charles Manson and Helter Skelter. You don't know where you heard it, who said it, or in what possible context those line have to do with Manson.

Given the lines, and the context of how they fit in with the 4th act of A Passion Play, I see absolutely no correlation. And given that the lyrics of APP have been discussed over and over for decades, and the lyrics have been actually researched by a number of people, I simply stated, in the innumerable discussions I have been privy to, that in 45 years I, myself, have never heard such a statement, nor have I seen such a statement made on the 3 or 4 Tull sites I frequent, including the one dedicated solely to researching APP.

But please, continue with your one line non-sequiturs. Perhaps something worthwhile will come out, given that, statistically-speaking, anything might occur eventually.

...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined
to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology...

Well, I'll continue to speak with Gully:

About the bootleg, very interesting indeed. As APP was finished in a hurry, in a studio, it lost some of the climax or the live feeling to the sounds. Listening to the live presentation (trying to ignore the bad quality, cest la vie) it kinda gives a dimension of begin-middle-end that the end holds in suspense. Imaging the presentation with the intro film, the Hare in the middle and the out video also give me a wish to have a time machine and understandin APP as a liev act more than an album.

PS: the image of the youtube I printed and put it in my room Big smile

- From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.