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ExittheLemming 
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 Posted: April 30 2015 at 21:05 |
 Matthew _Gill wrote:
Farage was quality on BBC1 tonight, really won over a partisan crowd. |
Notwithstanding bigotry, racism, insularity and parochialism being re-branded as 'Patriotism' there still remains a worst case scenario: Nigel Farage and Katie Hopkins have an affair, get married and start breeding.... 
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Blacksword
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Posted: May 01 2015 at 01:03 |
Matthew _Gill wrote:
Blacksword wrote:
^^^ That'll go down like a turd in a bath around here.. 
Moderate Muslims do protest radical Islam. The whole ethos of the Quilliam foundation is to tackle extremism.
We're not likely to see the "Islamification of Europe" Even the most 'right on' lazy minded liberals are not going to stand for their governments actually legislating to allow to archaic practices like stoning and the incarceration of rape victims in Europe.. 
The biggest threat comes from terrorism, and this comes from a combination of foreign policy catalysing such behaviour in young Muslims and yes, lax immigration controls to some degree. |
I think Quillliam became a non-starter when they got Tommy Robinson on board. Weren't Quilliam founded by an extremist? Maybe a trojan horse?
Islamification scares me tbh. Outside of Moderate Islam which is something that took time to evolve that Islam is compatible with Western values. As the Islamic population increases there will be more Sharia Patrol type groups putting pressure on girls to cover up or men to stop drinking in public, the future of Europe will be interesting at best. There have already been running battles in Sweden and Paris due to extreme Islam.
Stats are coming through every day that are very alarming - 1 in 4 women will be raped in Sweden! 27% of the prison population in London is Muslim whilst the UK Muslim population is just circa 4.8%!
The Police/Labour/Council/Muslim community leaders cover up regarding Rotherham and the media silence over Kriss Donald makes it crucial we retain equality with a UKIP vote. |
Yes Quilliam was founded by a former extremist IIRC, but are we to think people can't reform? The same goes for that donkey Robinson, at least he's seen a better way. The killers of Kriss Donald were jailed. The BBC admitted they didn't cover the story sufficiently, and I would agree that the media, police and social servcies don't know how to handle 'sensitive' cases in a way that inspires confidence in what they do. The authorities need to demonstrate a completely transparent and pragmatic approach to dealing with all racially motivated attacks including attacks on whites. Community sensitivities shouldn't be a consideration when dealing with serious crimes like these. That said, I promise you UKIP are not the answer!!
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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Dean
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Posted: May 01 2015 at 01:21 |
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Jared
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Posted: May 01 2015 at 01:55 |
Matthew _Gill wrote:
Farage was quality on BBC1 tonight, really won over a partisan crowd. |
Matthew, I admire your perseverance, but I'm not sure you'll find many UK based forum members who don't think that UKIP are a bit like the BNP with a couple of 'O' levels behind them...
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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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ExittheLemming
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Posted: May 01 2015 at 02:08 |
^ or Australian based forum members cobber...  I actually have a shred of sympathy for Farage and UKIP as their manifesto is not even remotely fascistic in intent but they must realise they are going to inherit vast swathes of lapsed Nazis/Little Englanders to the cause with all the poisonous PR that such a demographic can bring.
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Roj
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Posted: May 01 2015 at 08:19 |
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It's a pretty scary thought - unlikely but not impossible - if the Lib/Dems totally blank out and the Tories are leading party their best bet of a Coalition Partnership might just be with UKIP.......
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Jared
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Posted: May 01 2015 at 11:10 |
Roj wrote:
It's a pretty scary thought - unlikely but not impossible - if the Lib/Dems totally blank out and the Tories are leading party their best bet of a Coalition Partnership might just be with UKIP.......
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I can't see this happening. Although UKIP might get a worryingly high percentage of the vote overall, I don't think they'll win enough seats to be able to prop up the Tories on their own, even with DUP support. If Cameron doesn't get an outright majority, but wins the most seats, he'll realistically have no option other than to go cap in hand back to the Lib Dems if he wants to avoid 5 years of opposition.
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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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Kirillov
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Posted: May 01 2015 at 11:35 |
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I can't see this happening. Although UKIP might get a worryingly high percentage of the vote overall, I don't think they'll win enough seats to be able to prop up the Tories on their own, even with DUP support. If Cameron doesn't get an outright majority, but wins the most seats, he'll realistically have no option other than to go cap in hand back to the Lib Dems if he wants to avoid 5 years of opposition. [/QUOTE] In that case, there would be an interesting conversation between Cameron and Clegg on the EU referendum.
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Icarium
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Posted: May 01 2015 at 11:39 |
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how will UK elections affect Norway, does it affect us in anyway,that is what i care to know.
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Jared
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Posted: May 01 2015 at 11:52 |
Kirillov wrote:
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In that case, there would be an interesting conversation between Cameron and Clegg on the EU referendum. [/QUOTE] Yes, I'd thought of that one too... it'll be fudged then postponed until after 2020..
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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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Dean
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Posted: May 01 2015 at 12:18 |
Icarium wrote:
how will UK elections affect Norway, does it affect us in anyway,that is what i care to know. |
If Farage wins then the kind people of Oslo can decide whether to send a christmas tree to London to put in Trafalgar Square this year or not. Since that tree is a symbol of gratitude for ridding Norway of fascist invaders it would seem inappropriate to continue the tradition.
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SteveG
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Posted: May 01 2015 at 16:53 |
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God save the Queen.
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The Dark Elf
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Posted: May 01 2015 at 17:10 |
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God save the Queen. |
Hasn't she been saved long enough? Hey, you have to empty out the fridge every once in a while.
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...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined
to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology...
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Svetonio
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Posted: May 02 2015 at 21:39 |
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ExittheLemming
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Posted: May 02 2015 at 21:49 |
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Dean
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Posted: May 02 2015 at 23:31 |
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Svetonio
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Posted: May 03 2015 at 11:47 |
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Dean
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Posted: May 03 2015 at 11:58 |
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Ah, the Ommunist party of Ritain ... don't they run a tea-shop on Brick Lane?.
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Svetonio
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Posted: May 03 2015 at 12:03 |
....to be continued....
Edited by Svetonio - May 03 2015 at 12:08
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Dean
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Posted: May 03 2015 at 12:33 |
Svetonio wrote:
....to be continued.... |
Will you please stop trolling this thread. We know you are a troll you don't have to keep proving it. We have all the proof that is needed.
Look Comrade. I am a socialist and always have been but the communist party of <insert your favourite country here> is an extremist party of an extremist philosophy. Extremes are self-defeating, they simply do not work. Fascism does not work, Communism does not work, Capitalism does not work, Socialism does not work and Libertarianism/Anarchy will not work. They are all theoretical ideologies that are incapable of working in the real world. No single philosophy actually works in practice and (like it or not) true Democracy is so utterly impractical it is completely impossible to put into practice. Politics is the law of compromise - everything is a botched-up compromise that we get to re-botch every four years.
Edited by Dean - May 03 2015 at 12:34
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