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hellogoodbye
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Posted: March 12 2015 at 01:54 |
It is very difficult to distinguish a spark in the middle of a lava flow.
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poeghost
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Posted: March 13 2015 at 19:45 |
hellogoodbye wrote:
Yes. Try Kobaia. The songs are shorter and the music very varied. |
Thanks for your reply. I bought the download of Kobaia on Amazon. I like that much better! Been enjoying it. I think I may not be ready for their later stuff just yet. Going to let this album sink in for a while before I try the next one. I've been reading up some on Magma and the basic story line for the music. Been trying to find translations of the song titles and what is going on more specifically in each song to English. Does anyone know what they are?
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: March 13 2015 at 20:19 |
^ I don't think there is a Kobaian to English translator - and Babelfish is NOT de Hundin I'm still obsessing over E-Re - such a wonderful album. Poeghost, absorb that phenomenal debut album, lots of variety there and great musicianship to enjoy. Liking Magma is rarely an instant love, they to take some getting used to, but when you actually 'get it', it's easier from there. I find that with their long concept pieces, they usually have a hard-hitting intro, some meandering themes, then after a while, before you know it - BANG !! They are locked into a fast-paced, energetic and mesmerising groove that is intense as all hell, and it goes on and on. At this point, nothing else around you seems to exist, only the music and vocals. Then afterwards, they wind it down with more varied themes and reprises. Can see why snooker champ Steve Davis is soooo into them.
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Posted: March 15 2015 at 06:51 |
Bumping this thread along.... Just giving Udu Wudu a spin.......... Yep, De Futura is Magma's PINNACLE.
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Posted: March 16 2015 at 14:36 |
Thanks for the reply, Tom. It's too bad a Babelfish can't help us out!
Yes, I really enjoy the variety and musicianship of the Kobaia album. There's soft pretty passages, some fast and exciting, some scary, some weird and funny off-kilter parts that remind me of Arthur Brown's Kingdom Come and Frank Zappa. I liked disc one best of the 2, but overall it's a fun album.
I'm thinking of going chronological order with their discography when I do get any more albums. Though I'm a little hesitant about MDK. I don't know about those piercing vocals I heard clips of (they kind of scare me away), and I read that the album is repetitious.
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: March 17 2015 at 01:11 |
poeghost wrote:
I'm thinking of going chronological order with their discography when I do get any more albums. Though I'm a little hesitant about MDK. I don't know about those piercing vocals I heard clips of (they kind of scare me away), and I read that the album is repetitious.
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Whilst I find MDK quite worthy, it's definitely the OTT vocal arrangements on the studio version that prevents me from really getting into it like most. Could always skip it and move straight onto Kohntarkosz. Now that album is superb, so is 1001 Centigrades........ I prefer live versions of MDK, where the music is 'equal' to the vocals, as opposed to the dominating vocals taking centre stage. I'm still obsessing over E-Re - this one is spectacular.
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Posted: March 23 2015 at 01:33 |
Don't you know that the song composed by Magma "La Dawotsin" inspired Mike Oldfield for Tubular Bells. Mike was in the same place when Christian Vander was working his songs. Funny isn't it
Edited by Jaz - March 23 2015 at 12:45
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Posted: March 23 2015 at 04:35 |
^ Ah yes, you can hear it.
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Help me I'm falling!
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hellogoodbye
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Posted: March 27 2015 at 07:25 |
The only zeulish brazilian track I know.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zwUx1oLX_U
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: March 28 2015 at 01:06 |
Brazilian Zeuhl, that sounds cool (and exotic !!) Gosta Berlings Saga lapse into some Zeuhl on their Glue Works album - Nordic Zeuhl
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hellogoodbye
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Posted: March 28 2015 at 01:59 |
Found this on YT. Cool. Russian Zeuhl - Синкопированная Тишина - Протобаян
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KUYvBhXYmw
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: March 28 2015 at 02:21 |
^ Dang, your links don't show on my iPod - I really should use the PC but other folks in the family claim it most of the day......... The only Zeuhl outside of France I am aware of, is Japanese guys 'Ruins'. I still laugh at my thought of Magma being 'Satanic Jazz' (circa 1989/90, my hazy years....). I spun K.A the other eve, cranked it full-up whilst preparing tea for everyone - the dinner turned out spot-on !! I still prefer E-Re to this - the last part of K.A has the choir lapsing into too much Hallelujah chantings, kind of a downward spiral from what came before it. E-Re is just 'bang-on' from start to finish. I have currently reserved a vinyl copy of Sl*g Tanz with Syn-Phonic, can't wait to wrap my mind's ear around this one. I heard it being described as more 'metal' sounding........with that in mind (Vander and Co. are not exactly youthful anymore) the question I ask now - why are Yes resorting to the safety-net of 'Dad-Prog' ?? I enjoy their latest, Heaven And Earth (3 stars at best), but 'why ?'........
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Posted: March 28 2015 at 02:55 |
Really a good track, Tom. Try later. Do you know the album of the first Magma's singer: Zabu ? More Jazz than Zeuhl, but not bad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Mc8kReoSGk
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Posted: March 28 2015 at 03:13 |
^ I do like his contribution to the Univeria Zekt album, I didn't know he had solo work. Ditto for Francis Moze - I missed out on his solo LP that went for 'pocket change' on E-Bay several years back. These things don't grow on trees. I do, however, have the CD ( ) of Laurent Thibault's album, which is very precious to me. I currently feel the need to spin Magma's debut. I'm pretty sure the first verse or two of the first track, Kobaia, is sung in English !! Just a remarkable album, down to the sleigh-bells (!) toward the end - Hoi Hamtai Si'm ri'm Hamtai. Hoi Hamtai Si'm ri'm Hamtai.........
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Posted: March 28 2015 at 03:44 |
Love that video. In the interview Vander says that he tries to reproduce on stage the warmth of the music he plays alone at the piano at home.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lo0FxtTceTI
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Posted: March 28 2015 at 04:00 |
Just listening to them - for the first time. Interesting stuff. Somewhere amidst the showing off is a tune.
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: March 28 2015 at 05:45 |
^ What you listening to ?? I have never thought of them 'showing off' - they don't have big hair and think they have big dicks.......(and whatever......) This is literally, truly, against all pre-conceived ideas of how to compose music - well almost......it maybe what sounds they choose, and how to arrange those (unconventional) sounds within a strung-out composition. This whole Zeuhl thing is 'other-worldly' - but then again, that's only because the majority of the Prog-listening populace claim it to be. I think it's bona-fide BRILLIANCE. Many would say not, many do say I'm insane............... I don't care on folks' opinion, about ANYTHING. I wish they would learn to accept they way things are..........
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Posted: March 28 2015 at 06:21 |
hellogoodbye wrote:
The only zeulish brazilian track I know.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zwUx1oLX_U |
Great stuff Pierre, thanks for sharing
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Posted: March 28 2015 at 07:12 |
The whole disc is great, Sam. My favorite from Hermeto
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