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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: March 26 2015 at 00:34 |
True. I wasn't arguing against that. I was just making a different point that is also off-topic here.
Edited by Dayvenkirq - March 26 2015 at 00:35
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Kati
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Posted: March 26 2015 at 00:42 |
Dayvenkirq wrote:
True. I wasn't arguing against that. I was just making a different point that is also off-topic here.
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Dayvenkirq, I am used to your counter arguments and now I feel disappointed you didn't going of topic is normal, this is a prog site, no one can fault us for this big hugs to you and a even bigger hugs to your better half too
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: March 26 2015 at 00:48 |
'For all intents and purposes' - maybe because my boss says it frequently. The word 'nice' - yes, I've used it a few times, but it states next to nothing. Horrible word. For some reason, I dislike the word 'juncture' And those that say 'quiet good' instead of 'quite good'.............there is one.......
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chopper
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Posted: March 26 2015 at 06:29 |
Tom Ozric wrote:
The word 'nice' - yes, I've used it a few times, but it states next to nothing. Horrible word.
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My English teacher banned us from using "nice" as it was so meaningless.
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: March 26 2015 at 06:32 |
^ Ditto my Grade 5 teacher, Mr. Baird, back in 1982.
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ExittheLemming
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Posted: March 26 2015 at 07:33 |
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The Dark Elf
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Posted: March 26 2015 at 07:40 |
"My bad" is imbecilic. That, and using the word "like" as a space-saver for a sentient thought.
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...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology...
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ExittheLemming
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Posted: March 26 2015 at 08:05 |
Just been reminded of some more verbal teat chafers....
Just sayin' (as if you were just the messenger of your own thoughts) Meh (although I have used this myself) talk to the hand awesome to be honest (like you were lying up till now?) IMO (to prove you are not communicating while being held at gunpoint?) simples you need to move on ( i.e. I deny your reality and substitute my own) it's a big ask (have you considered exercise and dieting?) intrinsically (always used as a posh version of 'basically' by tertiary educated pondlife- it really means inseparable from the whole) ciao
Edited by ExittheLemming - March 26 2015 at 08:06
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Dean
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Posted: March 26 2015 at 08:18 |
chopper wrote:
Tom Ozric wrote:
The word 'nice' - yes, I've used it a few times, but it states next to nothing. Horrible word.
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My English teacher banned us from using "nice" as it was so meaningless. |
Mine too.
I've reclaimed the word, I think it's nice.
Pratchett and Gaiman used it nicely in Good Omens: The Nice and Accurate Prophecies of Agnes Nutter, Witch. I don't see that any other word would have served as well there, it set the tone of the novel perfectly.
My nan always used it sarcastically "That's nice dear..." when it was evidently clear to her that it was anything but nice, and I quite like that.
I want a nice cup of tea. No other word fits in that phrase to convey the exact meaning it requires - I don't want a pleasurable cup of tea, nor do I want an agreeable cup of tea or a delightful cup of tea - I want a nice cup of tea ... preferably with a nice biscuit or two
Edited by Dean - March 26 2015 at 08:27
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Dean
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Posted: March 26 2015 at 08:21 |
"let's agree to disagree"
Why the hell should I? You'll still be wrong.
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ExittheLemming
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Posted: March 26 2015 at 08:23 |
^^ words do of course change meanings and nuances over time. 'Nice' was historically indicative of something that was deemed exact, accurate and precise etc.
Edited by ExittheLemming - March 26 2015 at 08:47
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Toaster Mantis
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Posted: March 26 2015 at 09:20 |
I'm actually very surprised so few other than me mentioned any examples from political discourse, you'd think that'd be a major source of hated neologisms.
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"The past is not some static being, it is not a previous present, nor a present that has passed away; the past has its own dynamic being which is constantly renewed and renewing." - Claire Colebrook
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Dean
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Posted: March 26 2015 at 09:23 |
Toaster Mantis wrote:
I'm actually very surprised so few other than me mentioned any examples from political discourse, you'd think that'd be a major source of hated neologisms.
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That could be because we just ignore them.
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Toaster Mantis
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Posted: March 26 2015 at 16:15 |
I do find a lot of political terminology that has a concrete well-defined and useful meaning is often abused as thought-terminating clichés to either get people to shut up, or basically dismiss an argument as wrong without explaining why, which ends up making them radioactive. It's the kind of thing certain bloggers call "ideological applause lights". One reason I don't debate politics as often as I used to is that I end up asking people to clarify their terminology or pick apart their logical argumentation without ever getting around to discussing the specific policy proposals and socio-economic issues at hand, which I get the impression comes across as annoying to a lot of people.
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"The past is not some static being, it is not a previous present, nor a present that has passed away; the past has its own dynamic being which is constantly renewed and renewing." - Claire Colebrook
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ClemofNazareth
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Posted: March 26 2015 at 17:44 |
"No problem" especially when spoken by someone who's just being asked to do their job.
"I'm all over that" usually claimed by someone who isn't.
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"Peace is the only battle worth waging."
Albert Camus
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*frinspar*
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Posted: March 26 2015 at 18:12 |
ExittheLemming wrote:
^^ words do of course change meanings and nuances over time. 'Nice' was historically indicative of something that was deemed exact, accurate and precise etc.
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I learned this when I read "Good Omens" for the first time. All my life I've heard and said all of a sudden, but the language is mutating for whatever sad reasons, and I hear more and more people say "all the sudden". Makes me cringe every time.
Edited by *frinspar* - March 26 2015 at 18:13
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: March 27 2015 at 00:40 |
I've heard some politicians say 'ker-ching' in regards to money - dumb phrase if ever there was one. And I hate 'partay'. Just idiotic.
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: March 27 2015 at 00:44 |
The Dark Elf wrote:
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Then I suppose we have a truly hateful community that detests people recognizing their own faults.
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Atavachron
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Posted: March 27 2015 at 03:27 |
^ No it's just 'My bad' has replaced 'My fault' which was almost as annoying
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CPicard
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Posted: March 27 2015 at 04:42 |
There are some phrases in French (or should I say 'pseudo-French', 'half-French'?) which make me angry when I hear them... But I'm not sure how to translate them in English.
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