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sublime220 
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 Posted: February 24 2015 at 08:13 |
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Gentle Giant - everything on In A Glass House |
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Svetonio
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Posted: February 24 2015 at 07:35 |
Dayvenkirq wrote:
^ "The Battle ..." isn't overrated. I hear a lot of spite for it instead on this forum. |
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Posted: February 24 2015 at 07:03 |
Dayvenkirq wrote:
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I think underseen should replace underrated (usually the case of a good film flying under the radar - poor exposure, etc) |
Did you mean "overlooked"? I've never heard the word "underseen". |
I make up my own damn words!
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: February 24 2015 at 05:52 |
Walton Street wrote:
I think underseen should replace underrated (usually the case of a good film flying under the radar - poor exposure, etc) |
Did you mean "overlooked"? I've never heard the word "underseen".
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Posted: February 24 2015 at 05:46 |
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^ "The Battle ..." isn't overrated. I hear a lot of spite for it instead on this forum.
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richardh
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Posted: February 24 2015 at 02:06 |
Genesis - The Battle Of Epping Forest ELP - Tank/Take A Pebble and Knife Edge Gentle Giant - everything on In A Glass House Yes - Awaken/Going For The One Marillion - everything on Script For A Jesters Tear Eloy - everything on Ocean King Crimson - everything they did in the 80's Anglagard (in general) Pink Floyd (most of Dark Side Of The Moon except Time and Great Gig In The Sky) Mike Oldfield - Tubular Bells (about the 9th best album he made)
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sleeper
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Posted: February 23 2015 at 18:08 |
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Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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micky
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Posted: February 23 2015 at 16:33 |
like it wouldn't  yeah man.. overrated has a name here.. and it is called Genesis... and its face is Supper's Ready
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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Cristi
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Posted: February 23 2015 at 14:21 |
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I'mnot argeing against what people should do (listen/watch/like/appreciate) but when things get hyped, I have a problem. I'm gonna make a pol - Supper's Ready against any Genesis song; if Supper's Ready wins, there is a problem [/QUOTE]
well now you've really blown it - Genesis is my favourite band and Supper's Ready is one of their best songs :) [/QUOTE] LOL I love Genesis as well, but if I were to think of an overrated song amongst progheads, it's this one, so if Supper's Ready does not win that poll, it means then that it's not overrated.
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Walton Street
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Posted: February 23 2015 at 14:16 |
Cristi wrote:
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you don't get to tell people that they like something more than they should - it's beyond arrogant. we cant read minds, we cant tell who or if someone is jumping on a bandwagon. you just have to accept that a lot of people like something more than you do. I used to feel this way - I thought the Movie Titanic was 'overrated' Part of my growth was I had to learn to get over myself and accept that people value and rate things according to how they feel and it's ok if they like the things I don't, and don't like the things I do .. their tastes are appropriate for them .. as mine are for me. it's really that simple [/QUOTE] The terms "overrated/underrated" are all about subjectivity. It's not about judging someone else's tastes. I never implied that. Like I said, something overrated is when appreciating something reaches exaggeration. It becomes a hype, talk of the town to the point of annoyance almost. Titanic is an overrated movie , OMG, back then it was like , if you hadn't seen it, you lived for nothing.
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I think underseen should replace underrated (usually the case of a good film flying under the radar - poor exposure, etc) but even your definition of overrated is so intangible - it's impossible to put your finger on. lets face it - if something is really good to people - they will talk about it enthusiastically and often. It doesn't bother me ... I just turn it off and figure that I simply don't align with their tastes. I pretty much hate all pop music (this bogus RnB stuff) I hate Harlequin Romance Novels, I cant stand anything on TV .. but the people who rave about those things truly do like them despite my feelings .. It's rated appropriately for them .. I don't understand any of it but I can only say I'm right for me - not them sort of like how you're thinking about my opinion on this right now :) [/QUOTE] I'mnot argeing against what people should do (listen/watch/like/appreciate) but when things get hyped, I have a problem. I'm gonna make a pol - Supper's Ready against any Genesis song; if Supper's Ready wins, there is a problem [/QUOTE]
well now you've really blown it - Genesis is my favourite band and Supper's Ready is one of their best songs :)
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Cristi
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Posted: February 23 2015 at 14:14 |
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you don't get to tell people that they like something more than they should - it's beyond arrogant. we cant read minds, we cant tell who or if someone is jumping on a bandwagon. you just have to accept that a lot of people like something more than you do. I used to feel this way - I thought the Movie Titanic was 'overrated' Part of my growth was I had to learn to get over myself and accept that people value and rate things according to how they feel and it's ok if they like the things I don't, and don't like the things I do .. their tastes are appropriate for them .. as mine are for me. it's really that simple [/QUOTE] The terms "overrated/underrated" are all about subjectivity. It's not about judging someone else's tastes. I never implied that. Like I said, something overrated is when appreciating something reaches exaggeration. It becomes a hype, talk of the town to the point of annoyance almost. Titanic is an overrated movie , OMG, back then it was like , if you hadn't seen it, you lived for nothing.
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I think underseen should replace underrated (usually the case of a good film flying under the radar - poor exposure, etc) but even your definition of overrated is so intangible - it's impossible to put your finger on. lets face it - if something is really good to people - they will talk about it enthusiastically and often. It doesn't bother me ... I just turn it off and figure that I simply don't align with their tastes. I pretty much hate all pop music (this bogus RnB stuff) I hate Harlequin Romance Novels, I cant stand anything on TV .. but the people who rave about those things truly do like them despite my feelings .. It's rated appropriately for them .. I don't understand any of it but I can only say I'm right for me - not them sort of like how you're thinking about my opinion on this right now :) [/QUOTE] I'mnot arguing against what people should do (listen/watch/like/appreciate) but when things get hyped, I have a problem. I'm gonna make a pol - Supper's Ready against any Genesis song; if Supper's Ready wins, there is a problem
Edited by Cristi - February 23 2015 at 14:17
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Walton Street
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Posted: February 23 2015 at 09:11 |
Cristi wrote:
Walton Street wrote:
Cristi wrote:
Walton Street wrote:
Cristi wrote:
for some people, being overrated means bands/albums people love but they don't.
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that is the ONLY definition of overrated. |
I disagree, for example I think Kiss are overrated (they don't deserve all the attention they get), do I like them? Yes, they have a ton of good songs.
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you don't get to tell people that they like something more than they should - it's beyond arrogant. we cant read minds, we cant tell who or if someone is jumping on a bandwagon. you just have to accept that a lot of people like something more than you do. I used to feel this way - I thought the Movie Titanic was 'overrated' Part of my growth was I had to learn to get over myself and accept that people value and rate things according to how they feel and it's ok if they like the things I don't, and don't like the things I do .. their tastes are appropriate for them .. as mine are for me. it's really that simple |
The terms "overrated/underrated" are all about subjectivity.
It's not about judging someone else's tastes. I never implied that. Like I said, something overrated is when appreciating something reaches exaggeration.
It becomes a hype, talk of the town to the point of annoyance almost.
Titanic is an overrated movie , OMG, back then it was like , if you hadn't seen it, you lived for nothing.
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I think underseen should replace underrated (usually the case of a good film flying under the radar - poor exposure, etc) but even your definition of overrated is so intangible - it's impossible to put your finger on. lets face it - if something is really good to people - they will talk about it enthusiastically and often. It doesn't bother me ... I just turn it off and figure that I simply don't align with their tastes. I pretty much hate all pop music (this bogus RnB stuff) I hate Harlequin Romance Novels, I cant stand anything on TV .. but the people who rave about those things truly do like them despite my feelings .. It's rated appropriately for them .. I don't understand any of it but I can only say I'm right for me - not them sort of like how you're thinking about my opinion on this right now :)
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sublime220
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Posted: February 23 2015 at 08:33 |
King Crimson - Lark's Tongue, Epitaph Caravan - s/t Magma - K.A.
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Cristi
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Posted: February 23 2015 at 08:10 |
Walton Street wrote:
Cristi wrote:
Walton Street wrote:
Cristi wrote:
for some people, being overrated means bands/albums people love but they don't.
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that is the ONLY definition of overrated. |
I disagree, for example I think Kiss are overrated (they don't deserve all the attention they get), do I like them? Yes, they have a ton of good songs.
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you don't get to tell people that they like something more than they should - it's beyond arrogant. we cant read minds, we cant tell who or if someone is jumping on a bandwagon. you just have to accept that a lot of people like something more than you do. I used to feel this way - I thought the Movie Titanic was 'overrated' Part of my growth was I had to learn to get over myself and accept that people value and rate things according to how they feel and it's ok if they like the things I don't, and don't like the things I do .. their tastes are appropriate for them .. as mine are for me. it's really that simple |
The terms "overrated/underrated" are all about subjectivity. It's not about judging someone else's tastes. I never implied that. Like I said, something overrated is when appreciating something reaches exaggeration. It becomes a hype, talk of the town to the point of annoyance almost. Titanic is an overrated movie , OMG, back then it was like , if you hadn't seen it, you lived for nothing.
Edited by Cristi - February 23 2015 at 08:12
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Walton Street
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Posted: February 23 2015 at 07:40 |
Cristi wrote:
Walton Street wrote:
Cristi wrote:
for some people, being overrated means bands/albums people love but they don't.
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that is the ONLY definition of overrated. |
I disagree, for example I think Kiss are overrated (they don't deserve all the attention they get), do I like them? Yes, they have a ton of good songs.
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you don't get to tell people that they like something more than they should - it's beyond arrogant. we cant read minds, we cant tell who or if someone is jumping on a bandwagon. you just have to accept that a lot of people like something more than you do. I used to feel this way - I thought the Movie Titanic was 'overrated' Part of my growth was I had to learn to get over myself and accept that people value and rate things according to how they feel and it's ok if they like the things I don't, and don't like the things I do .. their tastes are appropriate for them .. as mine are for me. it's really that simple
Edited by Walton Street - February 23 2015 at 07:40
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Cristi
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Posted: February 23 2015 at 07:36 |
Walton Street wrote:
Cristi wrote:
for some people, being overrated means bands/albums people love but they don't.
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that is the ONLY definition of overrated. |
I disagree, for example I think Kiss are overrated (they don't deserve all the attention they get), do I like them? Yes, they have a ton of good songs.
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Walton Street
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Posted: February 23 2015 at 07:26 |
Cristi wrote:
for some people, being overrated means bands/albums people love but they don't.
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that is the ONLY definition of overrated. the use of the word gives me a headache.
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Cristi
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Posted: February 23 2015 at 07:12 |
how am I right when I disagree with that definition of overrated?
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Posted: February 23 2015 at 07:05 |
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I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution
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Cristi
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Posted: February 23 2015 at 06:58 |
Reading some of the comments here just gives me a headache; for some people, being overrated means bands/albums people love but they don't.  To me overrated is appreciation exaggerated, something over-hyped, a band/album that may deserve to be appreciated but not that much. Basically it's more than they deserve. Plus, being famous does not mean being overrated either.
Edited by Cristi - February 23 2015 at 06:59
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