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Kati ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 10 2010 Location: Earth Status: Offline Points: 6253 |
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Couldn't find right now one of you discussing the dislike of the band (will continue to search) however meanwhile I found this which also fitting to what I said above:
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=100434&PN=3
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Gerinski ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 10 2010 Location: Barcelona Spain Status: Offline Points: 5154 |
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Really Kati, it would take me some time which I am not too keen on spending at. David (Guldbamsem) has quite confirmed that he understood my point even if I may have been wrong. So let's state it loud and clear: OK You were not referring at all to any reviews on Corvus Stone. Reviewers should be judged too, and that's a completely neutral statement, nothing to do with any Corvus Stone review, it was about judging reviewers who give low ratings to Queen, Supertramp, Yes, VDGG, Big Big Train, Riverside, Magma, Kayo Dot, Devin Tonwnshend, Knifeworld and Perfect Beings.
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Kati ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 10 2010 Location: Earth Status: Offline Points: 6253 |
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You are accusing me of something I have not done, thus it's only fair for you to prove me wrong and show me where I said that? On the Reviews reporting thread I NEVER MADE ANY CRITIQUE ABOUT A SPECIFIC REVIEW nor have I ever mentioned anyone on them, quite the contrary I have came to the defense of 3 reviewers (and some collabs too) because I know them and felt that it was unfair, never said a word of critique specifying any reviewer or review.
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Gerinski ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 10 2010 Location: Barcelona Spain Status: Offline Points: 5154 |
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Dear Kati, please understand that I'm not willing to spend a lot of time searching for posts from you which might justify my words. I fully agree that you have never started anything by yourself, only that you have reacted to some reviews in threads like 'reviews reporting threads' or perhaps in even less explicit threads, I hope that you will agree to that and leave it as that without needing further discussions. I have no problem discussing with someone who loves a band which I don't, this should never become a 'fight', and I expect the same from the other side, I will never take offence if somebody criticizes some band I love as long as he/she does so respectfully and in an articulated manner. I repeat, I never meant to offend you and if I did so please accept my apologies. I believe that as critic as I may have been I have always stated my opinions in a respectful and opinionated manner, if you agree with this please let's leave it like that. Otherwise I will need to spend time searching for posts from you which can more or less justify my words, which I find rather unproductive.
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Kati ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 10 2010 Location: Earth Status: Offline Points: 6253 |
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Guldbamsen if that was the case I would be direct and say so. And no I do not blame people for misunderstandings but also don't appreciate being accused of things I have not done meanwhile taking this opportunity to further deliberate and go into details their dislike of something or anyone, especially while knowing that I (idiot here) have praised him before for his reviewing skills in regards to that exact less favorable review even if he still took upon himself to discuss it further into detail. I find it no longer interesting to read, twice was enough for me and see no reason for repeating this for a third time while replying to me. |
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SteveG ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 11 2014 Location: Kyiv In Spirit Status: Offline Points: 20617 |
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Um, some persons I know would have been seen as being in a compromising state if they mingled with PA in their past. Hmm, I wonder who it could be?
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Guldbamsen ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin Joined: January 22 2009 Location: Magic Theatre Status: Offline Points: 23104 |
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Sorry Sonia, but I made that exact same assumption myself when you made this thread. It's not that far fetched really. You've commented on reviewers before and how you would like to see them write with the respect.....often in the wake of a negative Corvus Stone review. That may not have been a factor at all and I'm sorry it wasn't, but you can't really blame people for thinking like that....even if they're wrong.
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Kati ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 10 2010 Location: Earth Status: Offline Points: 6253 |
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hahaha Vompatti, you are very naughty ![]() P.A. as a respectable site and a serious business do have an option for paid publicity, this is only for i.e. to allow bands to stay for a period of time on the P.A. Main Page that top row (Top Popular Artists, top 50 last 24 hours) with all sorts of bands from 70's to date inc. those who did not pay but earned their spot by being popular at the time. This is what you get. Hug
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Kati ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 10 2010 Location: Earth Status: Offline Points: 6253 |
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Gerinski, no cheers here. I have a question for you and hope for an answer to your comments below: Again I must quote you here: "I'm sorry Kati, I didn't mean to offend you, of course not, it's just that you have more than once posted reactions towards negative reviews from that band and I just got carried away thinking that this was also related to the same case."? Where have I ever said or done such things? The only time I discuss them is on reviews reporting thread to help clarify things or if anyone happened to mention them but never started it by myself. I never post about them except once recently, it was a competition to win a signed cd from them but the quiz was not at all about them, it was about guessing 10 artists from 70's prog/rock era, this was just for fun and for some interaction, infact they get the wrong end of the stick from me because I post so many things about other bands and songs but nothing from them to avoid all this.. I have tried to keep things separate, this is not the reason why I stayed here on PA, I have become very fond the members in this group here on PA, I feel happy being here. I am not here to defend myself, all you have to look are at my ratings, especially band releases in 2012. I have not rated much this last year. I have not asked anyone here to write a review on their new album because I did not want to place anyone in an awkward position due to conflict of interests. Now back to what you said, where have I said what you accused me of doing, as quoted?
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Vompatti ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: October 22 2005 Location: elsewhere Status: Offline Points: 67460 |
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I recently heard from reliable sources that bands can pay money to have negative reviews removed from PA, is this true?
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Gerinski ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 10 2010 Location: Barcelona Spain Status: Offline Points: 5154 |
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I'm sorry Kati, I didn't mean to offend you, of course not, it's just that you have more than once posted reactions towards negative reviews from that band and I just got carried away thinking that this was also related to the same case.
Any review is by definition subjective, and we must allow critical comments if the reviewer honestly thinks so, but of course we must demand from reviewers to be polite, respectful, and articulate in their opinions. Just bashing an album without articulate reasoning is not acceptable.
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SteveG ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 11 2014 Location: Kyiv In Spirit Status: Offline Points: 20617 |
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^Sounds good to me!
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Kati ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 10 2010 Location: Earth Status: Offline Points: 6253 |
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hahahahahaha!!!!! I am laughing here so much, so funny ![]() Group hug
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Kati ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 10 2010 Location: Earth Status: Offline Points: 6253 |
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He was a very wise man indeed ![]() SteveG, I love what you wrote above! Brilliant, this would be a fantastic slogan for i.e. P.A. and everywhere ![]() ~ Find a reviewer that relates to you and that you have trust in, and all will be well in the Land of Oz. ~ SteveG ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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SteveG ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 11 2014 Location: Kyiv In Spirit Status: Offline Points: 20617 |
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K. says "right back at you."
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Kati ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 10 2010 Location: Earth Status: Offline Points: 6253 |
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Hahahaha!!! SteveG K. is awesome, very funny too and I love her! Thank you very much, K. (Steve's very nice wife) That pic above is pun for MTV hehehe I actually love reading humour from others this make me smile and unfortunately also leave the topic and derail into silly things too ![]() I am a very happy nincompoop, you see ![]() A massive big hug
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SteveG ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 11 2014 Location: Kyiv In Spirit Status: Offline Points: 20617 |
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A wise old carpenter once said that a tree is known by it's fruit.
Find a reviewer that relates to you and that you have trust in, and all will be well in the Land of Oz. It is the only path available. |
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Kati ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 10 2010 Location: Earth Status: Offline Points: 6253 |
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I am absolutely speaking in general Gerinski, not singling out anyone or being specific. In regards to that you are referring to, I have said nothing but praised you many times on PA for your writing and articulate skills, also mentioning that although I may not share your view, it was a well written and well thought review! Thus what you wrote above I find quite offensive as I do not know where it comes from?! I believe that discussing reviews (not rate them) in a nice and polite manner could set higher standards which would also greatly benefit the prog reviewers and the site a lot. See quote copied below from comments made previously on this thread.
Now seriously
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