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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2005 at 14:01
What I'm saying, is why isn't it more popular than it is right now, not why isnt it more popular than other styles of music... When i was in highschool, the only people that listened to prog were people in the gifted program and music programs, maybe thats why i have a preconceived notion that only smart people/ musicians listen to prog?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2005 at 14:01
Originally posted by Trouserpress Trouserpress wrote:

Fantômas, xhamasaki - Please agree to differ.


First off all, congratulations for your signature. Great bands there. I tried to stop this absolutely silly discussion, but I can't. Seeing people using bad arguments, and making me post the same thing again again, makes me lost my mind. Sorry y'all guys...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2005 at 14:02
Originally posted by sstarless sstarless wrote:

Originally posted by Fantômas Fantômas wrote:

But it's not more intelligent music

what is intelligent music?



Every music is intelligent. In a "popular catchy" way, or in a "selective" way. But none is more intelligent than other.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2005 at 14:03

pssht you havent said anything either.  I'm triyng to get other people to be involved and give me their opinions, but all i ahve is you to insult me and say the exact same thing over and over again.  seriously, i didnt want to turn this into a flame war- my thoughts on why its not that popular is that mostly smart people listen to it and for lack of a better word, dumber people cant appreciate its complexity.  It may sound pretentious but thats my explanation for it, based on personal experiences.  That doesn't make me arrogant, it's just what ive seen/experienced

 

 

edit:  so singing about "big pimpin'" and "In da club" and all the clone punk bands are intelligent? I beg to differ... maybe its intelligent in the way that those artists know that whatever they make can sell to people that are tools



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2005 at 14:03
Originally posted by xhamasaki xhamasaki wrote:

What I'm saying, is why isn't it more popular than it is right now, not why isnt it more popular than other styles of music... When i was in highschool, the only people that listened to prog were people in the gifted program and music programs, maybe thats why i have a preconceived notion that only smart people/ musicians listen to prog?


Yes, you have a preconceived notion that just doesn't make sense.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2005 at 14:05
Originally posted by xhamasaki xhamasaki wrote:

sstarless i meant kc and the sunshine band- its the group that made the song "shake shake shake, shake shake shake, shake your bootie!" lol thats a lot of shakes.  But- no those bands weren't very popular (except pink floyd), how many number one hits did they each have? Maybe one?  That's not really POPULAR, atleast not like other bands that can consistently have #1 hits


Well, Jean Michel Jarre can gather thousands (if not millions) in audience of his large outdoor concerts. Jean Michel Jarre is kinda progressive too, right?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2005 at 14:05
Originally posted by xhamasaki xhamasaki wrote:

pssht you havent said anything either.  I'm triyng to get other people to be involved and give me their opinions, but all i ahve is you to insult me and say the exact same thing over and over again.  seriously, i didnt want to turn this into a flame war- my thoughts on why its not that popular is that mostly smart people listen to it and for lack of a better word, dumber people cant appreciate its complexity.  It may sound pretentious but thats my explanation for it, based on personal experiences.  That doesn't make me arrogant, it's just what ive seen/experienced


It shows you're no experienced enough. I'm sure you met intelligent people that don't like progressive because it's boring (in their opinion).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2005 at 14:06

well it makes sense to me and alot of other people in this forum...  so you're arguing with me because you feel its possible to be a tool and stupid and enjoy prog?  Believe me, I know you arent stupid, because if you were you wouldnt be posting on this board.  If you were stupid, you wouldnt appreciate the style of music honestly

 

edit: yes ive met smart people that didnt like prog, but thats NOT THE POINT OF THE THREAD... I'm not trying to say that prog is better than other styles of music, I'm trying to say that you ahve to have at least some intellect/ musical interest to get into it



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2005 at 14:06
Fantômas - Thanks for noticing my sig! Still, you're carrying when I think it'd be better for you to walk away for now.

xhamasaki - I can understand that you didn't want a flame war, but that's just what we have now, so drop it.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2005 at 14:07

I was asking, what means an intelligent music?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2005 at 14:10
intelligent music is music where the focus is on things more deep than having sex with "hoes" and generic relationship songs
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2005 at 14:11
Originally posted by xhamasaki xhamasaki wrote:

  Why isn't it more popular?  It really is probably the only truly creative, innovative and revolutionary form of music, is it because people are just shallow and stupid?  I don't get it.  I find it somewhat, I don't know how to say it, funny?- that the people that listen to prog generally have a much higher intellect and ability to understand things than people that listen to very mainstream and MTV kinds of music.  Is prog really only for intelligent people?  What do you guys think?



excuse me my friend, but how can you say all that things? are you talking seriously??? it does not mean that if someone listens to prog that he is smarter than someone who does not listen. everything in life is a matter of taste, and do not forget that prog was quite popular and mainstream in the 70s. groups like elp, king crimson, genesis and many more had many platinum records during that period. as years pass, tastes and preferences change and it would be quite boring if all the people had the same music tastes.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2005 at 14:11
Wow, this thread turned into a mess... A bit of a shame.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2005 at 14:11
Originally posted by sstarless sstarless wrote:

I was asking, what means an intelligent music?

Intelligent music is found in every genre. There are stupid prog songs, intelligent pop songs ... only dumb people bash genres.

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Originally posted by Fantômas Fantômas wrote:


Every music is intelligent. In a "popular catchy" way, or in a "selective" way. But none is more intelligent than other.


I beg to differ. You are from Brazil like me. You certainly know certain music genres that are... far less inspired than, say, bossa nova or classic MPB (popular brazilian music).

Think a certain comercial-ass-shaking music that has no qualities of its own, just good looking dancers...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2005 at 14:13
im not saying that someone who is a prog fan is smarter than other music fans, what im saying is that you ahve to be smart to get into the style of music
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2005 at 14:13
Originally posted by fractal fractal wrote:

Originally posted by Fantômas Fantômas wrote:


Every music is intelligent. In a "popular catchy" way, or in a "selective" way. But none is more intelligent than other.


I beg to differ. You are from Brazil like me. You certainly know certain music genres that are... far less inspired than, say, bossa nova or classic MPB (popular brazilian music).

Think a certain comercial-ass-shaking music that has no qualities of its own, just good looking dancers...


Thing is, you can even get intelligent dance music. Lemon Jelly, anyone?

Mike's right - only a moron bashes whole genres.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2005 at 14:14

I would appreciate more precise explanation. Are you saying that inteligence of music is measured by the inteligence of its lyrical content?

I personally know what is an intelligent man or even animal or even machine evn a woman ( ) but music?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2005 at 14:14
Originally posted by xhamasaki xhamasaki wrote:

im not saying that someone who is a prog fan is smarter than other music fans, what im saying is that you ahve to be smart to get into the style of music


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