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tuxon 
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 Posted: June 16 2005 at 13:15 |
Public Image Ltd. IF FAR MORE INTELLIGENT than Yes, and more inventive as well.
Can't say I agree with this statement, "because Yes is more popular, PIL is more intelligent"
that's the kind of elitism I always find very amusing
my english isn't the best today also, my thoughts are more coherent than this scribbling
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xhamasaki
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Posted: June 16 2005 at 13:16 |
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what i'm trying to say is, do people that enjoy other types of music instead of prog just not understand it, or do they simply prefer less complex music? I know from personal experience that of my friends that Ive introduced to prog- all of them like it alot and told me how amazed they were at how they'd never heard of the genre before. Maybe its just because its less accessible due to less advertising/marketing
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Fantômas
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Posted: June 16 2005 at 13:16 |
 xhamasaki wrote:
For me, my definition of prog is quite different
than many people in these forums. I never said prog is
the only good form of music, why are you putting words in my
mouth? I dont really appreciate that coming from a 15 year
old... I'm saying- why isn't the style of music more
popular? Is it because people can't handle how
complex/complicated? By that answer, doesnt that basically mean
that they are less "intelligent"? Or is the style of music less
popular because record labels figure they can keep forcing britney
spears down peoples' throats because its more marketable- meaning prog
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Prog isn't popular because it's obsolete now for the great public. Goddamnit, can't you see it?
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xhamasaki
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Posted: June 16 2005 at 13:19 |
my question is Why (try reading the topic)
mtv used to play Dream Theater, Pink Floyd, etc- why did they stop?
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Fantômas
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Posted: June 16 2005 at 13:24 |
xhamasaki wrote:
my question is Why (try reading the topic)
mtv used to play Dream Theater, Pink Floyd, etc- why did they stop? |
BECAUSE IT'S OBSOLETE ALREADY TO THE MAJOR PUBLIC. God...
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xhamasaki
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Posted: June 16 2005 at 13:25 |
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Wow try using a little bit of reading comprehension- Why is it obsolete? Are you that dense? Answer the question, thats the point of the topic... instead of getting angry, try to answer the question
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mickstafa
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Posted: June 16 2005 at 13:25 |
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Because we live in the information age, where people's attention spans
are not what they used to be. Look at the roads, look at people's
reaction to how "long" the war in Iraq is, look at any other pop
culture icon and you'll see materialism and typically lack of
depth.
The urban culture (R&B and rap) has pretty much killed most of what
Prog stands for. Anyhow, I'm glad its not pop. I like being
"in the know."
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sstarless
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Posted: June 16 2005 at 13:26 |
I have a quasi-scientific explanation :) After thousands of years of human history, especially last century, many different styles of music have emerged and it’s difficult for one man to listen and appreciate them all. Therefore listeners are divided between the styles. To say that progressive is not enough popular you have to know the proportion of its listeners compare to other styles. Which needs the proper calculation and probably have never been done. Do we know how many people listen to jazz, classic, various folk or rock music? Only after this is known it will be possible to speculate about the reasons of differences among stylistic popularities.
There is no need to ask why prog is not a part of modern pop culture, since it is already quiet old style and passed it period of mainstream popularity as did other styles and probably will do recent.
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Io sono nato libero
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Fantômas
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Posted: June 16 2005 at 13:27 |
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Fantômas
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Posted: June 16 2005 at 13:29 |
xhamasaki wrote:
Wow try using a little bit of reading comprehension-
Why is it obsolete? Are you that dense? Answer the question,
thats the point of the topic... instead of getting angry, try to answer
the question |
Damn, are you an idiot? It's obsolete because it didn't evolved. Ain't it obvious?
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xhamasaki
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Posted: June 16 2005 at 13:31 |
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but prog never was considered mainstream. even in the 70's when it was at its peak, prog records could never outsell the likes of kc and the sunshine band, beegees, etc. My dad grew up during that time, (in highschool in the mid-late 70's) and he has never heard of / listened to many of the popular prog bands. (He listens to alot of differnt music, including pink floyd, etc) The genre was never really THAT popular compared to other styles of music, which is the point of my post- Why was/is it not as popular as other forms of music?
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mickstafa
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Posted: June 16 2005 at 13:31 |
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What? Ok, I'm going to stop posting on these damn boards. This is not a nice place.
Anyhow, watch MTV cribs. Watch the bafoons with all the money
savor in their 200,000 dollar cars, live in rediculously rich mansions
with pictures of themselves plastered all over the walls. They
all too often in love with themselves, their materialism, and their
wealth.
Imagine a Prog episode of Cribs. Imagine seeing Jon Anderson,
Bruford, Fripp and their house. Sure it will be nice, but do you
think they'll act like the morons you find on MTV? hell no.
And yes we are in the information age where attention spans are
limited. Man why do I bother posting here if all that happens are
flame wars. See yall later.
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fractal
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Posted: June 16 2005 at 13:32 |
sstarless wrote:
I
have a quasi-scientific explanation :) After thousands of years of
human history, especially last century, many different styles of
music have emerged and it’s difficult for one man to
listen and appreciate them all. Therefore listeners are
divided between the styles. To say that progressive is not enough
popular you have to know the proportion of its listeners compare
to other styles. Which needs the proper calculation and probably
have never been done. Do we know how many people listen to jazz,
classic, various folk or rock music? Only after this is known it will
be possible to speculate about the reasons of differences among
stylistic popularities.
There
is no need to ask why prog is not a part of modern pop culture,
since it is already quiet old style and passed it period of mainstream
popularity as did other styles and probably will do recent.
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But progressive rock did a little comeback this decade. It was almost
dead during the 80s and 90s and now there are some new bands showing
up...
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Klaatu Barada Nikto!
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Hibou
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Posted: June 16 2005 at 13:32 |
I firmly believe loving prog has everything to do with musical sensibilities, not brains. If you have an ear for music and love rock (no matter what your IQ or social station may be), chances are you’ll enjoy prog.
It isn't popular because it is fundamentally a music lover's music. The same applies to jazz and classical music. These genres just don't agree with the average joe's ears.
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Fantômas
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Posted: June 16 2005 at 13:33 |
xhamasaki wrote:
but prog never was considered mainstream. even in the
70's when it was at its peak, prog records could never outsell the
likes of kc and the sunshine band, beegees, etc. My dad grew up
during that time, (in highschool in the mid-late 70's) and he has never
heard of / listened to many of the popular prog bands. (He
listens to alot of differnt music, including pink floyd, etc) The
genre was never really THAT popular compared to other styles of music,
which is the point of my post- Why was/is it not as popular as other
forms of music? |
Maybe because every human is dumb, except you. 
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mickstafa
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Posted: June 16 2005 at 13:35 |
Fantômas wrote:
Maybe because every human is dumb, except you.
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Dude, what is your problem?
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xhamasaki
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Posted: June 16 2005 at 13:35 |
I dont want a flame war either, I dont understand why people are getting angry- cough cough fantomas... Prog is not one single genre, its a mix of different styles grouped into one name. The genre is constantly evolving I dont understand why some people say it didn't "evolve"... that seems to imply that prog has a set formula. Prog music stands for anything experimental and different sounding- which means it constantly evolves, so saying it faded out during the 80s because it didnt evolve makes no sense at all
edit: seriously whats your problem? Maybe you need to go outside or something, or maybe grow up since youre only 15
Edited by xhamasaki
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Fantômas
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Posted: June 16 2005 at 13:37 |
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sstarless
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Posted: June 16 2005 at 13:37 |
What to say about my English? Untill I typed my previose post whole hell broke here. Today I am surprisingly calm
PEACE
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xhamasaki
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Posted: June 16 2005 at 13:38 |
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he was posting against you because you keep flaming me for absolutely no reason, grow up
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