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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 18 2014 at 18:08
^ Thanks again Gerard! I'll see if I can do something about it this weekend, I just hope I won't screw up the guitar Ermm
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 31 2014 at 09:46
I usually play my '73 Strat, '99 custom shop Tele or '05 Les Paul Studio.
My every day amp is an '05 Fender Blues Jr. I also have an '05 2 x 12 De Ville but it's too loud for my music room.
I use a Pedaltrain with a Dunlop "Cry Baby" wah wah, Danelectro Daddy O, Cool Cat and DanEcho.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 31 2014 at 10:21
My two favourite bases. Both build from Warmoth parts (Canary necks with ebony fretboard, Black Korina bodies) and with Nordstrand vintage pick ups and Volume-Tone-Balance controls. The Jazz is just that, the Z-shape is a fretless with extended fretboard.
Apart from the woodwork, I put them together myself.

Next to these I use an Ibanez Prestige 3005 and a Gretsch Broadkaster.




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 31 2014 at 11:32
^ Both of them look great!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 31 2014 at 13:58
And I can assure you they sound the way the look :)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2015 at 06:40
Originally posted by Meltdowner Meltdowner wrote:

^ Thanks again Gerard! I'll see if I can do something about it this weekend, I just hope I won't screw up the guitar Ermm
I caught the flu that weekend so I didn't see anything Ouch
I met someone at work who knows a lot about guitar gear though and I asked if he could see my guitar. He made some adjustments and it sounds a lot better but he noticed that some parts are not original (and worse than those, probably changed by the original owner) and that I needed to take to the luthier to fix the fretboard, although the price he said it costs (and I later confirmed) is almost as high as the price I paid for the guitar. Considering this, I decided to save that money to invest on a new one: this one was paid a long time ago with all the hours I played (and will play) Smile

So my question to you is: what good guitars can you recommend for proggin'? Wink

By the way, cool basses Angelo Cool



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2015 at 06:47
Thanks Meltdowner!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2015 at 10:19
Originally posted by Meltdowner Meltdowner wrote:

Considering this, I decided to save that money to invest on a new one: this one was paid a long time ago with all the hours I played (and will play) Smile

So my question to you is: what good guitars can you recommend for proggin'? Wink

By the way, cool basses Angelo Cool

I'm not a real musician, just an amateur so I'm afraid I'm not really entitled to make you any recommendations. I guess it all depends on your budget and what kind of 'proggin' do you mean. Do you play mostly chords? or mostly lead? mostly clean or mostly heavy / metal oriented?
Important defining features of a guitar are the action (how far are the strings from the fretboard), the frets profile height, the neck shape (more "U" or "V" depending if you will play mostly chords or lead), the neck radius (depending on how big your hands are), the pickups (humbuckers give a beefier sound, single-coils a thinner but sharper sound, although several guitars nowadays have switches to emulate the opposite wiring configuration), do you want a tremolo bridge... It's a world in it's own.

Your Ibanez didn't look too bad in picture, seemingly a low action guitar suited to modern playing with power chords and leads, and Ibanez is quite a good brand. The fact that a neck truss rod adjustment is necessary and a bit costly should not be a reason to throw it away if you like the way it feels and plays. With whatever guitar you buy it will come the day that a truss rod adjustment will be needed, especially if you experiment with different string gauges and tunings. And the cost of the neck adjustment should never be a match to the cost of the guitar! If you say the cost of adjusting the neck is close to the cost you paid for the guitar, either you must have bought it very cheap or you got a very expensive quotation for the adjustment, ask somewhere else!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2015 at 11:23
I didn't say anything about throwing it away, I even said "(and will play)". I'm considering buying a new one but I'll also do something about that one eventually. The thing is, I barely ever played on any other electric guitar to know if I really like the way it plays and by investigating about guitars I hope to learn more about them. I once played some Floyd on a Fender Stratocaster though and I really liked the way it felt Smile

Thanks for the information on the first paragraph, I'll need to analyze it more carefully in order to know what I really want.

I bought my Ibanez really cheap, the owner really wanted to get rid of it for some reason Ouch It doesn't look as pretty as the one on the photo.
I was 13 and my father immediately bought it without consulting me, so that one's on him Tongue
Anyway, if I get a new guitar, the Ibanez will be a backup guitar if anything happens on stage Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2015 at 11:43
Originally posted by Meltdowner Meltdowner wrote:

I once played some Floyd on a Fender Stratocaster though and I really liked the way it felt Smile
If you can afford a Strat, it is surely a very good and versatile guitar Smile. There are so many of them though that I could get lost, just look at this if you are interested

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2015 at 12:16
I play my '73 Strat almost every day. It has a very comfortable feel to it and with the three position switch you can get a variety of tones. It is lighter than my Les Paul Studio and has a slightly thinner neck. The frets are showing signs of wear but it is still very playable. I asked a guitar tech about this a couple of years ago but he recommended that I leave it in original condition for the sake of value.
When you're ready to buy I suggest you try to find a place where you can plug in and test play a few different guitars. I have a Sam Ash music store near me and they have a large selection of guitars and have no problem with you plugging in and playing anything they have on display. Right now they are selling standard American Strats for $1299. They also have Eric Clapton and Jeff Beck models for $1599.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2015 at 15:22
Originally posted by Gerinski Gerinski wrote:

Originally posted by Meltdowner Meltdowner wrote:

I once played some Floyd on a Fender Stratocaster though and I really liked the way it felt Smile
If you can afford a Strat, it is surely a very good and versatile guitar Smile. There are so many of them though that I could get lost, just look at this if you are interested

Thanks, very enlightening article and yes, I'm considering to spend a nice amount on the guitar, that's why I want to make the right choice Smile
When they say "C shaped neck", is it the same as "U" or it's a different thing?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2015 at 15:29
Yes, never buy a guitar without having test-played it (or any instrument for that matter). Many years ago my friends bought me a Fender acoustic as a present (made in Korea). I never liked it's sound and feel but I was stuck with it. Years later my girlfriend bought me a Yamaha keyboard I didn't like either, but I didn't dare to tell her so I kept playing it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2015 at 15:32
Originally posted by Meltdowner Meltdowner wrote:


When they say "C shaped neck", is it the same as "U" or it's a different thing?
Don't take me for granted but I believe that when they talk about guitar neck shapes, C or U are indeed the same.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2015 at 15:33
Originally posted by TeleStrat TeleStrat wrote:

I play my '73 Strat almost every day. It has a very comfortable feel to it and with the three position switch you can get a variety of tones. It is lighter than my Les Paul Studio and has a slightly thinner neck. The frets are showing signs of wear but it is still very playable. I asked a guitar tech about this a couple of years ago but he recommended that I leave it in original condition for the sake of value.
When you're ready to buy I suggest you try to find a place where you can plug in and test play a few different guitars. I have a Sam Ash music store near me and they have a large selection of guitars and have no problem with you plugging in and playing anything they have on display. Right now they are selling standard American Strats for $1299. They also have Eric Clapton and Jeff Beck models for $1599.
That seems really good, your inseparable guitar I see Smile
Thanks for the suggestion: I don't know where I could do that near me, I'll have to look into that Ermm
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 08 2015 at 18:33
I play my 78 fernandes strat through my pedalboard (heavily modified vox v847 wah, analogman sunface bc108, drybell vibe machine with exp pedal) into a Binson Echorec 2 and in the end in my '76 hiwatt sa212.
I can get really nice sound from it.

Atm, I don't know what else to add to my board
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 08 2015 at 19:09
Right now the AC adapter on my Pedaltrain only has four jacks. It's set up with a Dunlop Cry Baby wah wah, a Danelectro Daddy O overdrive, Cool Cat chorus and Dan Echo.

The Cry Baby is ok but I would like to find a wah wah with a wider range from high to low. I'm looking for a sound similar to "Ain't Superstitious" by the Jeff Beck Group.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 08 2015 at 19:11
Try changing the pot. 250k pot did wonders for me.

If it doesn't do the trick, change the inductor.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 11 2015 at 19:33
Here's a large sample of my gear:


This is my Gibson Les Paul Classic Plus, a really spectacular guitar. I love it. It sleeps with me. So does the cat. I have an Aria Pro II RS Ina Zuma V, an acoustic 12-string, and an acoustic bouzouki off in my hometown.


These are the pedal boards I've been assembling. Standing room only, as you can see. There are four separate lines, which pretty much means four times as large as most peoples set-up. I have ten ADA PitchTraq Harmonizers not pictured here, three of which are used to split and buffer the guitar signal into four separate signals (three from the "direct out" lines and one from the final "effect out" line, which of course can be bypassed). Those four lines go into each of the effect lines. I can play all four lines at the same time, or pick and choose by shutting off any one the effects lines with the noise gate they each start off with. I have no idea how many synthesizers are here, largely because it depends on your definition of synthesis.

Lots of switching around is inevitable. Mainly right now I am trying to get the power sources all accounted for. I had been drowning in tangled cords, which I have no patience for. I've purchased bricks for multiple DC outputs velcroed underneath. The Harmony Man and Timebender pedals, which altogether number eight, require AC power, so I've recently gotten a couple bricks for those, but they don't fit so nicely underneath.

It might be hard to determine from the picture what each individual pedal is, so here goes:
•The line at the top of the pic begins on the right with a DOD Gate/Loop. I will be replacing that with a Boss Noise Gate that I already have once I get the velcro on it. The next is a Pigtronix Mothership, a nice analog synthesizer with unimpressive tracking, but a really cool portamento effect. Next to that is one of my Line 6 FM4 pedals modified to double the presets from four to eight. The FM4 has magnificent monophonic tracking, by the way. After that is my Red Witch Synthotron, which tracks about as well as or as poorly as the Mothership, but it has some wonderful tones that sound like candy to a synth junky like me, and a fabulous resonant filter. To the left of that is my Digitech Synth Wah and a Boss Tera Echo after that to make the synth sound on the Synth Wah come alive. To the left of that is a multi-effect, the Mooer Mod Factory, which I bought for the envelope phaser setting but now only use for the surprisingly musical envelope ring setting. Placed somewhat arbitrarily after that is a Boss Acoustic Simulator. To the left of that is my Electro-Harmonix B9 Organ Machine. The Bell Organ setting on that will be what I mainly use that for. After that is the Mak Octronix, then a Ditto Looper, a Behringer Harmonist, A Behringer Slow Motion, and Behringer Preamp Booster. Those are followed by an Electro-Harmonix Superego Synth Engine, a Boss Dynamic Wah, and a Boss Super Octave.

•The second line of effects right underneath starts again on the far right with a Boss Noise Gate, followed by an Ibanez Synthesizer Bass and a Behringer Dynamics Compressor. Those are followed by a secondhand DIY pedal, which is quite simply a passive tone control, a Boss Touch-Wah, a Boss BF-2 Flanger, and a Behringer Noise Reducer. I might take some of these out in favor of a separate old-timey lo-fi pedal board. Anyway, the next is my all-time most prized effect, the Electro-Harmonix Hog2. In essence, it's a synthesizer in which one does additive synthesis by bringing in individual harmonics which one subsequently filters and adjusts the envelope. It is fully polyphonic. I also have the foot controller, which offers 100 presets! –As with all the Electro-Harmonix products, it is a synthesizer depending on what your definition of a synthesizer is, since all the sound is created by processing the guitar sound rather than being generated by an oscillator, but, in any event, that is a problematic requirement for a synthesizer.– Anyway, after that is another Behringer Preamp Booster (Don't Judge me. It was only $25 and a simple item that Behringer can do well enough). That goes into a Digitech Harmony Man, another modded Line 6 FM4, a Digitech Timebender, a Boss Feedbacker/Booster and a Boss Digital Reverb.

•The third line starts on the left this time with a Boss Noise Gate, then feeds into a Boss SYB-5 Bass Synthesizer. The SYB-5 has tracking just about as good as the FM4, concise control of different wave shapes, and a stunningly fabulous wave-shaper setting for fully polyphonic use. (Wave-shaping has something to do with altering wave shapes by filtering distortion. I can't explain any more precisely than that). The SYB-5 feeds into a Subdecay Vitruvian (ring) Mod, and then into a Subdecay Octasynth. To the right of that is my very wonderful Electro-Harmonix POG2, my Electyro-Harmonix Freeze, and two Digitech Harmony Man(s) (Harmony Men?). Further to the right is a Behringer Preamp Booster once again, an Electro-Harmonix Micro Synthesizer, 3 Boss Multi-Overtone pedals, a Behringer Slow Motion Pedal, a Digitech Timebender, and a Behringer Dynamics Compressor.

•The fourth line begins at the bottom left with a Boss Noise Gate, followed by a Boss SYB-5 Bass Synthesizer, a Boss OC-2 Octave pedal, another Digitech Harmony Man, and two Digitech Timebenders. After that is a Red Panda Particle. I wish I had a second one of these. After the Particle the line is preamped with Behringer preamp, followed by the Pigtronix Philosopher King, another Ibanez Synthesizer Bass, a Line 6 Otto Filter, another Behringer preamp, a Boss Slicer, a Donner chorus pedal, and a Behringer Digital Reverb (which I plan to switch out for a Boss Digital Reverb once I buy a second).

There are some other pedals that I would like to incorporate into my set-up in the future:

Pictured here are:
Five ring modulators (3 from Nervous Squirrel, the one on the far right is from Delptronics, and I can't remember the make of the green one)
Boss DS-1 Distortion
Electro-Harmonix Voice Box
Electro-Harmonix Pitch Fork (just came yesterday!)
Mooer Shimverb
Mooer Pitch Box
Boss Adaptive Distortion (the best it gets with clarity of notes in chords with distortion applied)
I definitely want to incorporate my Pollyanna Otave pedal into one of my pedal boards:


There are quite a few side-items I have not pictured here. A very early Digitech Whammy pedal, a Mooer Super Bender Pitch Pedal, a Morpheus Capo, an Electro-Harmonix HOG (1), a second Boss Slicer, 3 foot controllers for my ADA Pitchtraqs, two more Line 6 FM4s without the mods, an E-Bow, yada, yada, yada.

I also have a Pigtronix Infinity Looper, which is what I plan to record on when I start recording.

I have a Roland GR-20 as well.

Wow, Look at that. It's upside down. I have a GK3 pickup for it, but I don't want to attempt putting it on my Les Paul. I plan to buy a cheap yet playable guitar specifically for it, or put it on my Aria Pro II.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 11 2015 at 21:28
Originally posted by LizardsExist LizardsExist wrote:

Try changing the pot. 250k pot did wonders for me.

If it doesn't do the trick, change the inductor.
I'm not sure what you mean.
On the right side of the pedal base there is the wah range selector knob that has six different positions. 
This adjusts the tonal range but doesn't expand the low to high range.
The variable Q and boost control adjustments on the bottom of the pedal gives me a variety of sounds but still doesn't expand the range.
I normally have the overdrive after the wah wah but the booklet said putting the overdrive before the wah wah will give you more of a quacking sound. I've tried this and it was a step in the right direction but I'm still not getting the wider range I'm looking for.

Maybe I'm being too obsessed with that one song.
Probably only Jeff Beck knows how he got that sound.
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