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Mellotron Storm 
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 Posted: December 29 2014 at 11:41 |
His vocals are bad. I still remember how horrified I was the first time I heard Ocean  . I have grown used to them but much prefer the early stuff(Inside & Floating") in part because the vocals aren't as bad there or even later. The worst period vocal-wise seems to be from Dawn to Silent Cries And Might Echoes.
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"The wind is slowly tearing her apart"
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verslibre
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Posted: December 29 2014 at 11:45 |
Eloy's a GREAT band. Maybe they took a page or three from Floyd's handbook early on but later they recorded stuff PF would never have done, like those songs on Colours, Planets, Time to Turn and especially Performance and Metromania. Eloy definitely rocked out more. I've never had an issue with Bornemann's vocals in 20+ years (and I've never regarded Waters as a great singer, either). Frank's singing is part of Eloy's uniqueness. Eloy also has one of the best bass players "not in the Big 5" in Klaus-Peter Matziol. Their rhythm sections (all of them) played circles around Floyd's. Eloy's a band that everyone should check out!
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HolyMoly
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Posted: December 29 2014 at 11:49 |
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I agree the Colours/Planets/Time to Turn period was especially good. They knew how to make tasteful synth prog albums that don't sound cheesy.
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LearsFool
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Posted: December 29 2014 at 13:41 |
I thought that the vocals added a lot to Ocean, especially the introduction to "Atlantis' Agony". And in the end, I find the vocals not an impediment at all; it's not quite like the usual problematic non-English-speaker-singing-English vocals we see in RPI or Omega's English language remakes.
And a great band all around.
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presdoug
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Posted: December 29 2014 at 16:51 |
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I love Eloy, and have no problem with the vocals. My favorites are Eloy, Inside, The Power and The Passion, and Ocean. Really classy European prog.
Edited by presdoug - December 29 2014 at 20:14
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The.Crimson.King
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Posted: December 29 2014 at 17:40 |
Been into Eloy a very long time...faves are definitely the 1st 3 albums and I like the vocals and think the heavy accent gives them a cool sound 
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Barbu
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Posted: December 29 2014 at 17:47 |
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Mellotron Storm
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Posted: December 29 2014 at 19:48 |
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"The wind is slowly tearing her apart"
"Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: December 29 2014 at 20:20 |
^ And Chris Karrer doesn't have a thick accent ?? C'mon John, you can do better than that Love Eloy, never found Bornemann to have a bad sounding voice from the first listen.....
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Barbu
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Posted: December 30 2014 at 08:48 |
Much better.
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Mellotron Storm
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Posted: December 30 2014 at 09:07 |
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"The wind is slowly tearing her apart"
"Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN
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moshkito
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Posted: December 30 2014 at 10:33 |
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Bad vocals ruin an otherwise good band. |
ALL of the German bands had "bad vocals" ... it was not about the vocals as it was about the whole thing.
Sadly, that's like saying the FAUST vocals were great!
I find that we compare things to a standard that is supposed to be a standard, and in doing that we lose the ability to enjoy the "difference". Joe Cocker will forever be a horrible vocalist ... and some of us will say ... you're not listening!
Edited by moshkito - April 02 2015 at 08:45
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: December 31 2014 at 02:02 |
^ I'm not sold. Peron and Cocker weren't on any level of "horrible".
moshkito wrote:
ALL of the krautrock bands had "bad vocals" ... it was not about the vocals as it was about the whole thing. |
You were saying ... ?
Edited by Dayvenkirq - December 31 2014 at 02:02
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Barbu
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Posted: December 31 2014 at 02:53 |
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No no, not again.
Nooooooooot agaaaaaaain!
No, no!
Never again!!
C'mon lad, 44 to go...
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Mellotron Storm
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Posted: December 31 2014 at 08:50 |
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Hard to disagree with the Mosh man about the vocals. When it comes to Psychedelic and Krautrock they just aren't that important. Think of John L with Ashra Tempel or Moody with Can and on and on. There were some good vocalists i'm sure but it's about the mood and style more than the vocals.
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: December 31 2014 at 15:58 |
^ Very clever observation, John 
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Posted: December 31 2014 at 17:41 |
I never found Frankie B a horrible vocalist at all, when I first heard it, I was more fascinated than put off! Their `Power and The Passion' was one of the first prog albums I heard (thank you Tom!  ), and I think it was the first time I'd heard an accent so strong while being in English. I always thought he sounded like Dr Nick `Hi evelybody!' Riviera from the Simpsons!
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dr prog
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Posted: January 01 2015 at 01:43 |
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Fine band
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All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.
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Posted: April 01 2015 at 15:10 |
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One of my favs bands now, and I have no problem with the vocals and his german acent, probaby because I don't have english as native language and is more difficult to me to find this type of problem.
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Nous sommes du soleil
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Catcher10
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Posted: April 01 2015 at 16:33 |
Funny how in reality, vocals are a bigger pc of the puzzle than one would think if you hung around this forum a lot.....Vocals can ruin good music. I only have Ocean, don't listen much to it.....probably should since those vocals are decent. Weird cause I don't have too much of an issue with Hamill's vocals.
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