The Most Influential

SteveG wrote: I can understand KC and Genesis as big influences, but who exactly did Floyd influence except for early Mostly Autumn and Floyd cover bands? And please don't tell me Porcupine Tree because I can't hear it.

Apart from Guldbamsen's list, Karnataka was another I can readily think off.  I am surprised, to be honest, that such a question could be asked in the first place because Gilmour is easily one of the most popular 'sources' when any rock guitarist of the 80s and onwards wants to play a slow, shimmering electric guitar solo.  Almost every 'moving', 'haunting' slow guitar lead in the 80s/modern era is basically Gilmour, whether or not fans of the bands in question wish to acknowledge it.  So, even in a band like Dream Theater, which may not be heavily influenced by Floyd overall, some of Petrucci's slow guitar passages certainly evoke Floyd. Especially so in Octavarium but there are plenty of other examples.  Spirit Carries On is so heavily based on Wall-era Floyd.  Some slow leads of PoS too have evoked Gilmour for me. 

Guldbamsen wrote: ^Nice post. It also very eloquently, perhaps unintentionally, describes the difference between 'influence' and 'copycatting' - the latter often mistaken for the former. It is possible for a band to have Floyd influences without ever sounding like Floyd.

Guldbamsen wrote: Airbag have very obvious Floydian soundscapes, and when they then slap a Gilmour solo on the piece, it gets to be even more in your face methinks.

rogerthat wrote: SteveG wrote: I can understand KC and Genesis as big influences, but who exactly did Floyd influence except for early Mostly Autumn and Floyd cover bands? And please don't tell me Porcupine Tree because I can't hear it. Apart from Guldbamsen's list, Karnataka was another I can readily think off.  I am surprised, to be honest, that such a question could be asked in the first place because Gilmour is easily one of the most popular 'sources' when any rock guitarist of the 80s and onwards wants to play a slow, shimmering electric guitar solo.  Almost every 'moving', 'haunting' slow guitar lead in the 80s/modern era is basically Gilmour, whether or not fans of the bands in question wish to acknowledge it.  So, even in a band like Dream Theater, which may not be heavily influenced by Floyd overall, some of Petrucci's slow guitar passages certainly evoke Floyd. Especially so in Octavarium but there are plenty of other examples.  Spirit Carries On is so heavily based on Wall-era Floyd.  Some slow leads of PoS too have evoked Gilmour for me.    Moving to more crossover bands, Supertramp are undeniably influenced by Floyd.  Yes, they are also influenced by other great rock bands but that's not the point.  Floyd are to rock as Miles standards are to jazz, they are all over the place, creeping into the output of many bands one way or the other.  Queensryche's Silent Lucidity is a definite Floyd-inspired case.  Especially the "Hush now don't you cry" verse evokes Mother.  In the case of bands not listed on PA, Tears for Fears were surely influenced by Floyd.  I could literally go on and on.    And this is only with respect to their more popular Gilmour/Waters 70s epoch.  Piper..and Saucerful...are also immensely influential albums, especially so on the Krautrock sub genre of prog.  Doors was also great source material but I would be surprised if Floyd weren't a source. Ah, remembered one more. What about Eloy's Ocean album?  When I heard it last, which is so long ago that I can no longer recall vividly,  I found it almost too Floyd-like to persist.

Chris S wrote: ^ Cool to see you around Micky

Rick Robson wrote:   And thank you so much for one more great reference that I just happen to read here in the PA Forum: Tom Brislin! God Damned ! How I wish I was there at that NJ Proghouse !...

He's been there the last two years, and absolute sweetheart of a man and an amazing talent.  I'm sure he'll be back next year. If you can make it, look for me (the strangely out place 'beast' hanging with a ravishing Italian beauty) and I'll buy first round and by the time we're finished we'll serenade Necromonkey with calls for an ELP encore hahah

Rick Robson wrote: micky wrote: Rick Robson wrote:   And thank you so much for one more great reference that I just happen to read here in the PA Forum: Tom Brislin! God Damned ! How I wish I was there at that NJ Proghouse !...   He's been there the last two years, and absolute sweetheart of a man and an amazing talent.  I'm sure he'll be back next year. If you can make it, look for me (the strangely out place 'beast' hanging with a ravishing Italian beauty) and I'll buy first round and by the time we're finished we'll serenade Necromonkey with calls for an ELP encore hahah   Thank you again micky, and for sure it would be a great pleasure to meet you, I'll be there! Oh yeah, I will be there!   P.S.: Necromonkey - don't know this song, I will have to improvise hahahah...

awesome!!  Keep an eye out for tickets and reserve the hotel early,  I suspect next year will near a full house. Everyone (bands and people like us from out of town) stays at the same hotel so that is a a nice social aspect but it is close to NYC and the freeway so can book up quickly.

As far as Necromonkey. A band.  Awesome stuff man.  Let me plug my wife again. She loves that!!

http://progmistress.com/2014/05/07/necromonkey-a-glimpse-of-possible-endings-2014/


You'll love them. We saw them at Progday, close enough it seemed to reach out and touch them as they played. Very intimate setting and the NJ Proghouse is perhaps even moreso.  Plus it is a good excuse to meet Mathias if you have not. Especially if one isn't particularly shy. Or even if, as I am in real life.  Another really sweet and approachable person to shoot the bull with. It is amazing and great to see how genuinely nice and approachable these musicians are. Raff and I have actually become quite close to a number we first met online then cemented in face to face.

I'll be around, unless I buy it of course or Raff finally gets tired of my bullsh*t and sticks with that knife she always threatens me with (gotta love Italians!) haha, but the organizers are very good about putting out the information. It has been the Columbus Day weekend the last two years and am quite sure it will be again next year.

Influence... I'd say KC have more influence on artists (Indukti, Masfel spring to my mind but there are many more). Floyd influenced artists (to the point of near copying (Mostly Autumn and another whose name I forget but tried reconstituting Echoes slavishly) and of course, the the tribute bands), slightly more appropriately there is The Orb. The Beatles have their influence as well for song writing detail and laying the groundwork for ELO to complete but in their own way.

I do like it when influence has had it's impression but artists such as Riverside take things to a more original level. Something many bands find hard with a Zeppelin influence - it's either Zeppelin-ish or not. Led Zep cornered their market while The Beatles opened theirs up...

P.S. Re the P Tree thing - it's based around Sky Moves Sideways. He said as PF were no longer doing albums like that (WYWH) he would. And did. And, apparently, regretted it. Perhaps their might be an artistic parallel between Sunday Of Life and Piper; mainly based on unique songs based around lyricists whose impact with either band was limited to each others' early days only.

^^^  So when you hear the riffs of Slayer's Black Magic, do you say Sabbath-like or just Iommi-like?  Come on, it makes no sense to compartmentalise it like that when Gilmour was one of the important members of the band and as the guitarist and one of its lead singers, a defining component of their sound and style.  Actually I did provide examples of so called musical flashbacks, even naming specific tracks, if you cared at all to read.  But be that as it may, you cannot separate Gilmour's influence as a guitarist from that of Floyd because he found his own voice with Floyd in the first place.  Had he already been a star in his right and walked in for a few albums to make a mark, it would be a different issue.  But Gilmour was as much Floyd as Waters, Wright or Mason.  That the name Gilmour rather than Floyd comes to your mind is only a mark of his popularity.  But his popularity, clearly, was only attained as a part of a larger outfit.  Outside of it, he wasn't nearly as influential.  

micky wrote: I'll be around, unless I buy it of course or Raff finally gets tired of my bullsh*t and sticks with that knife she always threatens me with (gotta love Italians!) haha, but the organizers are very good about putting out the information. It has been the Columbus Day weekend the last two years and am quite sure it will be again next year.