The Most Influential

Some other bands strongly influenced by ELP are Latte e Miele, Triade and the latter period of The Trip.

CLOUDS - Prog was a myriad of ideas that came together rather than any one source, but if any band could be said to be a major influence on prog itself, it would be 1-2-3 (Clouds)

chopper wrote: presdoug wrote: Rick Robson wrote: ELP OK name me a band that were influenced by ELP (apart from T********t).

every damn prog band that showcases keyboards as a lead instrument.

However the OP subtly didn't make  the poll most influential IN prog.. that is a ELP no brainer. You don't have to sound like a group to be influenced by it. That is the difference between amateur analysis and really understanding what was going on. ELP is far away the most influential group in prog.

In terms of wider musicical influence as I read the OP's question. It is Floyd no doubt.

As far as Genesis... hahaha.  It is not a popularity vote. It is nice to see that things haven't changed here in all these years, the Genesis fans have never failed to mistake modern popularity for historical revelevance. There is a reason they are known as a pop group... not a prog group.

rushfan4 wrote: Whoa!  I think that I've seen a Ghost (Rider).

I wish. Perhaps she will soon come back. She was always the better, and definitely the kinder and better looking,  of the two-headed monster we were.

It is wonderful to see  you Scott.  I hope all is has been well with you. There were a handful of PA's friends that we didn't keep up with as we made the FB jump. You were definitely one of them. Sorely missed. We both really enjoyed talking and shooting the sh*t with you.

btw. We celebrated 8 years together yesterday.  All because of this goddamned site haha.

To emphasize my point on the last post.  We went to the NJ Proghouse last weekend, and saw a bunch of neat bands. One (whose name escapes me as I was in the process of running up a nearly 200 dollar bar tab hahahha) who featured Tom Brislin on keyboards. Read the comments on that performance.  It really didn't take off, it was basic neo-prog song based stuff that was good.. but.. things took off when Brislin was 'unleashed'.  That my friends is what prog is about, it is what prog fans want and expect... to see keyboardists not sit back and chomp down chords but solo and show us what they can do. That is one of the main aspects of prog, the bringing forward of the keyboardist into the spotlight, and that my friends is exactly what ELP brought to Prog. That and the standard for ENSEMBLE virtuosity we expect from prog bands. Prog owes that to ELP. Save us the Genesis crap... the perfect cure for insomnia.  That is definitely not what prog is about hahha


Edited by micky - October 21 2014 at 17:21

micky wrote: rushfan4 wrote: Whoa!  I think that I've seen a Ghost (Rider). I wish. Perhaps she will soon come back. She was always the better, and definitely the kinder and better looking,  of the two-headed monster we were. It is wonderful to see  you Scott.  I hope all is has been well with you. There were a handful of PA's friends that we didn't keep up with as we made the FB jump. You were definitely one of them. Sorely missed. We both really enjoyed talking and shooting the sh*t with you. btw. We celebrated 8 years together yesterday.  All because of this goddamned site haha. To emphasize my point on the last post.  We went to the NJ Proghouse last weekend, and saw a bunch of neat bands. One (whose name escapes me as I was in the process of running up a nearly 200 dollar bar tab hahahha) who featured Tom Brislin on keyboards. Read the comments on that performance.  It really didn't take off, it was basic neo-prog song based stuff that was good.. but.. things took off when Brislin was 'unleashed'.  That my friends is what prog is about, it is what prog fans want and expect... to see keyboardists not sit back and chomp down chords but solo and show us what they can do. That is one of the main aspects of prog, the bringing forward of the keyboardist into the spotlight, and that my friends is exactly what ELP brought to Prog. That and the standard for ENSEMBLE virtuosity we expect from prog bands. Prog owes that to ELP. Save us the Genesis crap... the perfect cure for insomnia.  That is definitely not what prog is about hahha

octopus-4 wrote: Nogbad_The_Bad wrote: Would love to say Henry Cow or Univers Zero   As is open to all bands not just prog it has to be Kraftwerk. But at least Magma have had some influence... For the most influential I think it's question of making the count, but surely Genesis, Pink Floyd, Yes, King Crimson (today more than before), and don't forget Emerson Lake and Palmer, especially in Eastern Europe. The strange thing with Zappa is that he has surely influenced many artists, but very few proggers for what I know.

When you invent your own genre then I guess you've had some influence. I'd go with a top 5 of

Kraftwerk
Miles Davis
Pink Floyd
Frank Zappa
CAN


Edited by Nogbad_The_Bad - October 21 2014 at 20:26

Luna wrote: Guldbamsen wrote: How are Genesis winning this poll? It's about influence on other bands and artists - regardless of the prog tag. Most musicians, that aren't prog fans, have no clue about 70s Genesis, and while the stuff they dished out in the 80s was successful (and pretty damn good), I fail to see how influential it really was on subsequent generations of music makers. Kraftwerk and Miles were and still are vastly more influential on not just one scene but dozens, literally. The music world doesn't always stop at the prog gates - sometimes we tend to forget that in here amongst the Rush and Genesis fumes.    Yep. This poll just confirms my belief that people on this site will vote Genesis on a poll regardless of the title. It's annoying to say the least.

richardh wrote: Luna wrote: Guldbamsen wrote: How are Genesis winning this poll? It's about influence on other bands and artists - regardless of the prog tag. Most musicians, that aren't prog fans, have no clue about 70s Genesis, and while the stuff they dished out in the 80s was successful (and pretty damn good), I fail to see how influential it really was on subsequent generations of music makers. Kraftwerk and Miles were and still are vastly more influential on not just one scene but dozens, literally. The music world doesn't always stop at the prog gates - sometimes we tend to forget that in here amongst the Rush and Genesis fumes.    Yep. This poll just confirms my belief that people on this site will vote Genesis on a poll regardless of the title. It's annoying to say the least. Funny thing I voted Genesis but it was a genuine answer. I think people know that I am not beholden to Genesis but I hear their ideas in so many modern prog bands its really hard to ignore their influence on the prog scene.

You're of course entitled to your opinion, but for influence on prog in particular I would have selected either Crimson or Floyd over Genesis.

Bands with Floyd influences?

Airbag have very obvious Floydian soundscapes, and when they then slap a Gilmour solo on the piece, it gets to be even more in your face methinks.