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    Posted: October 10 2014 at 07:41
- not out yet, I believe.

And I have a VERY bad feeling about this. A collection of unreleased material from "The Division Bell". Ummmmm. 

Well, I can understand why, given the death of Richard Wright, this is being advertised as "The last ever Pink Floyd album", but I'd honestly hoped that they'd go out on a high. Rather than a rehashing of some very old, and unreleased material. 

Anyone else have any other thoughts ? (Waits for flames and general explosions. ;-) ) 

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Although, dr. Stephen Hawking is featuring on that album, so it has to be good.
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Originally posted by Nonsensei Nonsensei wrote:

Although, dr. Stephen Hawking is featuring on that album, so it has to be good. 

I am a bit sceptical about the album; just a few thoughts while parts of the album will be released on the web bit by bit from a long time PF fan:
  • Most of the material was recorded during the rehearsals forThe Division Bell without being used on that album.
    So I don't expect this album to be better than its predecessor.
  • I don't reject the idea of using these recordings to create a tribute album for a bandmate who has passed away, but in the worst case it might result in a Calling All Stations-effect (using the PF moniker for what sounds like a non-PF album).
    Anyway, Richard Wrights contribution to the Pink Floyd sound was quintessential.
  • I consider a cameo appearance of an eminent scientist a gimmick, nothing more. I don't expect dr. Stephen Hawking to add any musical value. Btw, Keep Talking is my least favourite track on The Division Bell.
  • There may emerge some new old material every now and then, but I hope that the title of the new album does not refer to a Hendrix/Zappa effect (a plethora of new studio album releases after a band has split up or an artist has passed away).


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From what I understand, it's not just a bunch of half finished demos quickly thrown together.
The original tracks started as that, then both Dave and Nick went back in and used Richards tracks to build up new songs, including vocals, guitar solos, etc. Not really much different from how other albums are made, except the original material was recorded by someone that can't come in to touch up their parts. However, if a part really didn't work, I'm of the opinion that Dave had a different musician come in and add a few lines as needed. The last couple of PF albums have quite a few musicians on them. This one won't be any different.

That being said, I'm not particularly interested just because PF just hasn't interested me much in the last decade. 
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Originally posted by Davesax1965 Davesax1965 wrote:


And I have a VERY bad feeling about this. A collection of unreleased material from "The Division Bell". Ummmmm. 


Unreleased material from The Division Bell sessions doesn't necessarily have to be "The Division Bell: Take 2". The new album may end up being quite different, and more to your liking than The Division Bell was. 

(as long as it's not as long, monotonous and depressing as The Wall)
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Originally posted by someone_else someone_else wrote:

I am a bit sceptical about the album; just a few thoughts while parts of the album will be released on the web bit by bit from a long time PF fan:
  • Most of the material was recorded during the rehearsals forThe Division Bell without being used on that album.
    So I don't expect this album to be better than its predecessor.
  • I don't reject the idea of using these recordings to create a tribute album for a bandmate who has passed away, but in the worst case it might result in a Calling All Stations-effect (using the PF moniker for what sounds like a non-PF album).
    Anyway, Richard Wrights contribution to the Pink Floyd sound was quintessential.
  • I consider a cameo appearance of an eminent scientist a gimmick, nothing more. I don't expect dr. Stephen Hawking to add any musical value. Btw, Keep Talking is my least favourite track on The Division Bell.
  • There may emerge some new old material every now and then, but I hope that the title of the new album does not refer to a Hendrix/Zappa effect (a plethora of new studio album releases after a band has split up or an artist has passed away).
I just wanted to say I agree with you totally here
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Originally posted by someone_else someone_else wrote:

Most of the material was recorded during the rehearsals forThe Division Bell without being used on that album.

The only track I've heard close to its entirety is "Louder Than Words." And I think it's better than any track on The Division Bell. May be my favorite Floyd track since "Comfortably Numb" in '79.


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The whole thinking behind the album from Gilmour and Mason is so perfect, its why you release an album. Because you have material that is wonderful and needs to be out for others to enjoy.

Sure the buildup to this album is pretty huge right now, the anticipation is thick.....I don't believe it will disappoint. The Division Bell is an amazing album so I can only imagine the material from those sessions are pretty special.
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Originally posted by Vic333 Vic333 wrote:


That being said, I'm not particularly interested just because PF just hasn't interested me much in the last decade. 
How true.  All of their new material in the past ten years has been disappointing.
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Originally posted by Evolver Evolver wrote:

Originally posted by Vic333 Vic333 wrote:


That being said, I'm not particularly interested just because PF just hasn't interested me much in the last decade. 
How true.  All of their new material in the past ten years has been disappointing.

Well, after The Final Cut, and then About Face and Pros and Cons, and then A Momentary Lapse of Reason and Radio Kaos, it was pretty clear that the band members would never top or equal their strong run from Meddle to The Wall. I remember that disappointment - but that was nearly 30 years ago (Momentary Lapse: '87). After accepting that, there have been some pleasant surprises, which include The Division Bell, David Gilmour's mainly-acoustic Live DVD, and On an Island (which is my favorite post-Wall). And I fell instantly in love with the new track "Louder Than Words" from the album; so I don't think I'll be disappointed ;-)

Also, has anyone listened to that new Marianne Faithfull track that was written by Roger Waters? Honestly, it's the best thing I've heard from Waters since The Wall as well. Even though he doesn't sing on it, it's so Waters, and so brilliant sounding and perfectly produced (no tacky chorus-line back-up vocals or 80s-sounding drum machines or Beck/Clapton guitars): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHVFarjq-D0


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Originally posted by jude111 jude111 wrote:

Originally posted by Evolver Evolver wrote:

Originally posted by Vic333 Vic333 wrote:


That being said, I'm not particularly interested just because PF just hasn't interested me much in the last decade. 
How true.  All of their new material in the past ten years has been disappointing.

Well, after The Final Cut, and then About Face and Pros and Cons, and then A Momentary Lapse of Reason and Radio Kaos, it was pretty clear that the band members would never top or equal their strong run from Meddle to The Wall. I remember that disappointment - but that was nearly 30 years ago (Momentary Lapse: '87). After accepting that, there have been some pleasant surprises, which include The Division Bell, David Gilmour's mainly-acoustic Live DVD, and On an Island (which is my favorite post-Wall). And I fell instantly in love with the new track "Louder Than Words" from the album; so I don't think I'll be disappointed ;-)

Also, has anyone listened to that new Marianne Faithfull track that was written by Roger Waters? Honestly, it's the best thing I've heard from Waters since The Wall as well. Even though he doesn't sing on it, it's so Waters, and so brilliant sounding and perfectly produced (no tacky chorus-line back-up vocals or 80s-sounding drum machines or Beck/Clapton guitars): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHVFarjq-D0


Actually I think his best post-Floyd work is Each Small Candle.That's brilliant imo.


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Originally posted by aliano aliano wrote:


Actually I think his best post-Floyd work is Each Small Candle.That's brilliant imo.

Really? I know I've heard it, but didn't give it much of a listen. I'm intrigued now, and will have to give it another listen...


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Personally, I am looking forward to the new album. It sounds like it has been put together well, and it certainly is not a cashing-in on the death of Wright since that has been several years now. I liked The Division Bell, so that does not raise any red flags for me. I know they are not the same people they were in the 70s so I don't expect them to go full retro. A mostly instrumental Pink Floyd album is something I didn't know I had been waiting decades for. And yes, Each Small Candle is brilliant.
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Originally posted by jude111 jude111 wrote:



Originally posted by aliano aliano wrote:

Actually I think his best post-Floyd work is Each Small Candle.That's brilliant imo.


Really? I know I've heard it, but didn't give it much of a listen. I'm intrigued now, and will have to give it another listen...



Indeed, I love Each Small Candle. It's among my very favourite Waters songs.
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Originally posted by jude111 jude111 wrote:








Originally posted by Evolver Evolver wrote:

Originally posted by Vic333 Vic333 wrote:


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<div style="LINE-HEIGHT: 14px">That being said, I'm not particularly interested just because PF just hasn't interested me much in the last decade. 


How true.  All of their new material in the past ten years has been disappointing.

Well, after The Final Cut, and then About Face and Pros and Cons, and then A Momentary Lapse of Reason and Radio Kaos, it was pretty clear that the band members would never top or equal their strong run from Meddle to The Wall. I remember that disappointment - but that was nearly 30 years ago (Momentary Lapse: '87). After accepting that, there have been some pleasant surprises, which include The Division Bell, David Gilmour's mainly-acoustic Live DVD, and On an Island (which is my favorite post-Wall). And I fell instantly in love with the new track "Louder Than Words" from the album; so I don't think I'll be disappointed ;-)
Also, has anyone listened to that new Marianne Faithfull track that was written by Roger Waters? Honestly, it's the best thing I've heard from Waters since The Wall as well. Even though he doesn't sing on it, it's so Waters, and so brilliant sounding and perfectly produced (no tacky chorus-line back-up vocals or 80s-sounding drum machines or Beck/Clapton guitars): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHVFarjq-D0








Actually, I really like The Division Bell... a lot. My thrid favourite, just after WYWH and Animals. However even though Louder than Words is sounding fine enough, I think High Hopes was a much better swansong for the band. I've read that Louder than Words is actually longer than the 4 min version that has been showed already, so luckily the extra minutes it might have could make the difference.
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Looking forward to that CD/Blu Ray boxset. I will be buying that.
Has the album in 24/96 5.1 mix. Can't say know to that. Love me the Floyd. ;)
Also, boxset contains 39min of extra music that is not on original cd release.
Again. I'm sold.
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Originally posted by progbethyname progbethyname wrote:

Looking forward to that CD/Blu Ray boxset. I will be buying that.
Has the album in 24/96 5.1 mix. Can't say know to that. Love me the Floyd. ;)
Also, boxset contains 39min of extra music that is not on original cd release.
Again. I'm sold.


that will be nice
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Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Originally posted by progbethyname progbethyname wrote:

Looking forward to that CD/Blu Ray boxset. I will be buying that.
Has the album in 24/96 5.1 mix. Can't say know to that. Love me the Floyd. ;)
Also, boxset contains 39min of extra music that is not on original cd release.
Again. I'm sold.


that will be nice


Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Originally posted by progbethyname progbethyname wrote:

Looking forward to that CD/Blu Ray boxset. I will be buying that.
Has the album in 24/96 5.1 mix. Can't say know to that. Love me the Floyd. ;)
Also, boxset contains 39min of extra music that is not on original cd release.
Again. I'm sold.


that will be nice


That it will, but as you know now I LIVE for 24/48 LPCM cause that is the ultimate audio format to experience my analog warm signal with my 800's. god almighty I will not be leaving my house that day when I receive that album. ;)

It will officially be Pink Floyd's last work.
Gimmie my headphones now!!! 🎧🤣
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But there still is a David Gilmour album shortly on the way, isn't there? I hope that hasn't been dropped.

Plus, I really hope Floyd releases live albums from the past. That would be quite a treat.

And wasn't there word that Richard Wright had been working on a follow-up album to Broken China? Would be nice if Gilmour and Waters collaborated on those tracks and finished them...

(I continue to hold out hope that this won't be the last we hear of Floyd ;-)


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