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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 03 2014 at 10:39
Theres a metal head who lives next door to me. I was surprised to find out he doesn't seem to know much about progressive metal. When I mentioned it he asked me if that was like Yngwie Malmsteem or Joe Satriani. My response was something like "yeah, kind of." Then I had to explain to him about Queensryche, Dream Theater, Symphony X etc. He did seem to recognize the name Opeth though. :) So I don't know how popular prog metal is when a hardcore metal fan has to struggle with figuring out what it is. This guy is 39(still a few years younger than me)so maybe it's mostly the younger metal fans who are hip on prog metal I don't know.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 03 2014 at 10:40
Originally posted by Prog_Traveller Prog_Traveller wrote:

Theres a metal head who lives next door to me. I was surprised to find out he doesn't seem to know much about progressive metal. When I mentioned it he asked me if that was like Yngwie Malmsteem or Joe Satriani. My response was something like "yeah, kind of." Then I had to explain to him about Queensryche, Dream Theater, Symphony X etc. He did seem to recognize the name Opeth though. :) So I don't know how popular prog metal is when a hardcore metal fan has to struggle with figuring out what it is. This guy is 39(still a few years younger than me)so maybe it's mostly the younger metal fans who are hip on prog metal I don't know.
It might be just the guy next door. Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 03 2014 at 12:18
Queenryche, Dream Theater and Symphony X have been around for some 25 years, so blame it on your neighbour - not on metalfans in general.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 03 2014 at 12:23
Very surprised that a 39 year old American is not aware of Queensryche.  They got very heavy FM and MTV play around the time of Empire.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 03 2014 at 12:29
Originally posted by Prog_Traveller Prog_Traveller wrote:

Theres a metal head who lives next door to me. I was surprised to find out he doesn't seem to know much about progressive metal. When I mentioned it he asked me if that was like Yngwie Malmsteem or Joe Satriani. My response was something like "yeah, kind of." Then I had to explain to him about Queensryche, Dream Theater, Symphony X etc. He did seem to recognize the name Opeth though. :) So I don't know how popular prog metal is when a hardcore metal fan has to struggle with figuring out what it is. This guy is 39(still a few years younger than me)so maybe it's mostly the younger metal fans who are hip on prog metal I don't know.

A metalhead who isn't familiar with Opeth, Dream Theater or Queensr˙che is no true metalhead...
Are yoy sure he isn't just one of those whiny metalcore fans? They seem to be everyhere these days Ermm


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 03 2014 at 12:33
I don't know a ton of metalheads, but the ones I do know know prog metal, and know enough people who like prog metal to feel that Dream Theatre is overrated. Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 03 2014 at 12:43
Originally posted by Polymorphia Polymorphia wrote:

I don't know a ton of metalheads, but the ones I do know know prog metal, and know enough people who like prog metal to feel that Dream Theatre is overrated. Wink

And then there are the ones who vehemently deny that DT are even metal at all LOL


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 03 2014 at 13:01
Prog is no more dead than "prog is dead" threads. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 03 2014 at 13:20
Originally posted by Archeus Archeus wrote:

Originally posted by Polymorphia Polymorphia wrote:

I don't know a ton of metalheads, but the ones I do know know prog metal, and know enough people who like prog metal to feel that Dream Theatre is overrated. Wink

And then there are the ones who vehemently deny that DT are even metal at all LOL
A keyboard player? That's just not kvlt, man. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 03 2014 at 13:49
<akerfeldt>Prog is deaaaaaad</akerfeldt>
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 03 2014 at 13:50
Originally posted by Tapfret Tapfret wrote:

Prog is no more dead than "prog is dead" threads. 

Did anyone ever post a Paul Is Dead thread?

If prog is not dead , and I did not intimate that it was (resuscitated perhaps), where is it going?
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<akerfeldt>Prog is deaaaaaad</akerfeldt>
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 03 2014 at 14:06
Originally posted by lucas lucas wrote:

Prog killed itself...
This.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 03 2014 at 14:20
Originally posted by Archeus Archeus wrote:



Originally posted by Polymorphia Polymorphia wrote:

I don't know a ton of metalheads, but the ones I do know know prog metal, and know enough people who like prog metal to feel that Dream Theatre is overrated. Wink
And then there are the ones who vehemently deny that DT are even metal at all LOL
I know you're just joking but, with no Ex/Tech metalers to back me up, I was thinking more in the line of groups like Meshuggah, Shinning, My Dying Bride and Enslaved which are foreign to most Ozzy to Mastodon Metal heads. I'm definitely not talking about the well known Dream Theater.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 03 2014 at 14:24
Originally posted by Polymorphia Polymorphia wrote:

Originally posted by Archeus Archeus wrote:

Originally posted by Polymorphia Polymorphia wrote:

I don't know a ton of metalheads, but the ones I do know know prog metal, and know enough people who like prog metal to feel that Dream Theatre is overrated. Wink

And then there are the ones who vehemently deny that DT are even metal at all LOL
A keyboard player? That's just not kvlt, man. 

And what about the awfully impeccable production? Just no... Dead
This, on the other hand, is TRUE metal:





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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 03 2014 at 14:27
^Hannibal is at the gates!!    

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 03 2014 at 14:34
On the other hand,

"..Most pure metals are either too soft, brittle or chemically reactive for practical use. Combining different ratios of metals as alloys modifies the properties of pure metals to produce desirable characteristics...."

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 03 2014 at 14:36
Prog did appear to be past its best - although Genesis were becoming neo-prog during this period until Abacab in 81 when they morphed again and became a pop band. However, this hiatus ended when IQ came along in 85 and brought us their debut The Wake. Since then, neo-prog has got better and better. Stand outs are Seven by Magenta in 2004, Posthumous Silence by Sylvan in 2006 and On The Road by Minor Giant in 2014. There is so much high quality prog around now - it makes me glad to be alive!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 03 2014 at 14:36
Originally posted by HolyMoly HolyMoly wrote:

On the other hand,"..Most pure metals are either too soft, brittle or chemically reactive for
practical use. Combining different ratios of metals as alloys modifies
the properties of pure metals to produce desirable characteristics...."-- wikipoopia

I concur Mein Herr. That's why soft brittle metal must be infused with strong prog to form a superior form of music.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 03 2014 at 14:40
Originally posted by MellotronGhost MellotronGhost wrote:

Prog did appear to be past its best - although Genesis were becoming neo-prog during this period until Abacab in 81 when they morphed again and became a pop band. However, this hiatus ended when IQ came along in 85 and brought us their debut The Wake. Since then, neo-prog has got better and better. Stand outs are Seven by Magenta in 2004, Posthumous Silence by Sylvan in 2006 and On The Road by Minor Giant in 2014. There is so much high quality prog around now - it makes me glad to be alive!
Well said.

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