NEXT!!!! (for Yes)

JediJoker7169 wrote: I like the original stereo mixes of these albums just fine, but I'm a big fan of surround and for me, Mr. Wilson is the best in the business in that regard. I've loved all of his classic album 5.1 mixes that I've been able to get my hands on, including Close To The Edge. It's important to note that he does not "remaster," but "remix" these albums; he is a mixing engineer. (Those of you who know: please forgive the following crude explanation.) Mixing is the process of setting the volume levels, sound signature, and spatial position of all the tracks (instruments, vocals, effects) in the recording. Once the final mix is set, mastering is the process that, in its most basic form, prepares the mix for distribution in the appropriate end-user (listener) format. For most of Steven's mixes, the mastering is that simple, but in the industry at large, mastering is usually much more involved. A mastering engineer takes the final mix--NOT the individual tracks in the recording--and further shapes the sound of the mix much in the same way a mixing engineer does for the individual tracks within the mix. SW does not master in this way, or at all, and generally prefers that his mixes are not mastered as such.

chopper wrote: cstack3 wrote: A friend sent me the remastered TFTO, I really don't care for the way that they reincorporated the cut opening (ambient keyboards, Howe's guitar volume swells) into the beginning of "Revealing Science of God" since it conflicts with what I heard on vinyl for decades.   I'd love to find an older pressing of that one. Interesting you should say that as they basically restored something that was cut away from the original. I wasn't sure about it at first, having been used to the original coming straight in with the vocals for years but now I like it - what do others think?

I first heard "The Revealing Science" in this restored form, and much prefer it that way. The original vinyl edit fades in too quickly, suggesting there's something missing. To have done it right, it should have had no fade in at all, and simply cold-opened with Anderson's first entrance.

cstack3 wrote: Thanks, great explanation!   I have a very early CD of CTTE that I bought used, it is a transfer of the studio tapes to CD format.  I love it!  Sure, it has tape hiss, but I hear the mix & master just as Eddie Offord did, without the crackle & pop of vinyl (I'm not a vinyl fan).   Re-masters seem to be a gimmick to repackage old stuff, but they seem inevitable.  A friend sent me the remastered TFTO, I really don't care for the way that they reincorporated the cut opening (ambient keyboards, Howe's guitar volume swells) into the beginning of "Revealing Science of God" since it conflicts with what I heard on vinyl for decades.   I'd love to find an older pressing of that one.   The bonus material that they jam onto remasters is also of dubious value.

Edited by Mirror Image - August 28 2014 at 00:05

I like the original stereo mixes of these albums just fine, but I'm a big fan of surround and for me, Mr. Wilson is the best in the business in that regard. I've loved all of his classic album 5.1 mixes that I've been able to get my hands on, including Close To The Edge. It's important to note that he does not "remaster," but "remix" these albums; he is a mixing engineer. (Those of you who know: please forgive the following crude explanation.) Mixing is the process of setting the volume levels, sound signature, and spatial position of all the tracks (instruments, vocals, effects) in the recording. Once the final mix is set, mastering is the process that, in its most basic form, prepares the mix for distribution in the appropriate end-user (listener) format. For most of Steven's mixes, the mastering is that simple, but in the industry at large, mastering is usually much more involved. A mastering engineer takes the final mix--NOT the individual tracks in the recording--and further shapes the sound of the mix much in the same way a mixing engineer does for the individual tracks within the mix. SW does not master in this way, or at all, and generally prefers that his mixes are not mastered as such.

I read it on Yes'  and SW's facebook page before. Great news! Is CTTE's remaster worth buying?

Indeed, I've always thought there was something a bit "noisy" about the mix of Relayer. Probably not the right word to describe it though.

well i kinda remember that i thought that Going for the One was next in the new SW remixes and commented that somewhere on here as i thought it made the most logical sense as they performed that and the previous 2 SW remixes in their entireties on their last tour, but apparently i was one album too late hehehehehe (worst pun EVER , but here's the link to get what i meant):