Is Robert Fripp Overrated?

Dayvenkirq wrote: Yeah, I don't want to discuss the upper limit on how many simple chords would make a simple piece, or the lower limit on how many simple chords would make a complex piece.

I don't know if it's possible to make a complex piece using only simple chords

Dayvenkirq wrote: I don't know if it's possible to make a complex piece using only simple chords

I know this particular topic doesn't belong on this thread, so I'd like to close it with another thought. Now that I'm reading the tab for "Celestial Voices", you could use about seven or more chords to generate many more subtle chord changes, but at this point I don't even want to go in detail about whether it's (1) the number of just the chords or (2) the number of the chords and the number of the different subtle chord changes that could make a piece more complicated. That's up to you.[/QUOTE]

Simple chord is a simple chord. Not all chords are simple. Chord changes? Man, a guitar covers 4 octaves. Many progressions are available.

Dayvenkirq wrote: LSDisease wrote: Simple chord is a simple chord. Not all chords are simple. I'm aware of that, so I don't know if you are onto another point here. LSDisease wrote: Chord changes? Man, a guitar covers 4 octaves. Many progressions are available. I was talking about making many progressions from just about seven or more chords. Don't know what octaves have to do with any of it.

it doesn't matter if all chords are simple, everything must be simple too. Simple chords simple progression.

Dayvenkirq wrote:   it doesn't matter if all chords are simple, everything must be simple too. Simple chords simple progression.

Now you've lost me. What point are you making here now? Just because all chords in a piece are simple, that does not necessarily mean that all the chord changes, the chord voicings, and the progressions are simple in detail. Think bigger. The execution of the piece may be simple, but the detail of the piece may or may not be complex. Keep in mind that what is simple or complex in terms of execution and detail (and there is an obvious difference between the latter two) can sometimes be in the grey area. "Is this piece simple or complex?" "Compared to what?"[/QUOTE]

If you mix 10 simple songs into one song you won't have one complex song you will still have a simple song cos to have it complex those riffs must interact with each other in multiple ways.

I don't think Robert Fripp is overrated. Based upon what I've heard of his playing, with and without King Crimson, he is certainly in my book, a very original, inventive and affecting guitarist. 

tamijo wrote: It's the complexity of the silence between the cords, that is the true heart of the matter.

Dean wrote: O666 wrote: twosteves wrote: O666 wrote: Rating RF?! Underrate maybe but overrate..... I dont understand some of members. I saw strange posts these days in PA. One guy said "I hate Yes" and other guy write "Genesis hit me" (in positive attitude) and now "Robert Fripp is overrated". I think some guys come in wrong address!! Maybe some of you dont like Progressive music. Maybe some guys try to show themselves "Different Guys". Who knows. I know what you mean--but I hate VDGG and usually dive for cover when I say it ---but prog is a big universe and you can't expect to appreciate all of it---but not thinking Fripp is the great and powerful Oz and not liking Yes or Genesis is totally not acceptable Good point. I dont like many of giants in PA like many members but I cant talk about them negative!! You get my point and I get yours Thanks. Like every other forum on the interweb, this website has trolls.

SteveG wrote: tamijo wrote: It's the complexity of the silence between the cords, that is the true heart of the matter.

dr wu23 wrote: tamijo wrote: It's the complexity of the silence between the cords, that is the true heart of the matter.   Over the years I have heard some musicians say, especially with guitarists,  that what a guitar player doesn't play is just as important as the notes he does play.

Thanks again Dean and I appreciated.