Is Robert Fripp Overrated?

SteveG wrote: ^I agree. The last I heard is that God only listens to gospel music. Lame.

...and maybe even a little ugly on the side

[FZ reference]

God listens to a bit of Goth every now and then on the sly (so I've heard).

^Satan has a 1952 black Vincent Lightning. What else would you expect from the original Bad A**?

LSDisease wrote: Dayvenkirq wrote: The chords don't have to be simple. It's the fact that you use many different chords in a particular way, in a single section or a number of sections, that determines how complicated a piece is in detail. Think "A Saucerful of Secrets". That one is all AA...A (closed with a Bmaj), but that A-section entails so many different major chords that the section is truly complicated in detail. Don't have to but sometimes are and I am talking about the situation when there are many simple chords in the composition. Is it complex? Don't think so.

(Then we are talking about the same thing.) How is a piece with many more chords in it not more complicated? I've just brought up an example.

LSDisease wrote: Dayvenkirq wrote: LSDisease wrote: Dayvenkirq wrote: The chords don't have to be simple. It's the fact that you use many different chords in a particular way, in a single section or a number of sections, that determines how complicated a piece is in detail. Think "A Saucerful of Secrets". That one is all AA...A (closed with a Bmaj), but that A-section entails so many different major chords that the section is truly complicated in detail. Don't have to but sometimes are and I am talking about the situation when there are many simple chords in the composition. Is it complex? Don't think so. (Then we are talking about the same thing.) How is a piece with many more chords in it not more complicated? I've just brought up an example. If all chords are simple I don't see complexity here.

Again, they don't have to be complex. More chords - more of musical information, more complication in the detail of a piece.

Edited by Dayvenkirq - August 01 2014 at 05:31

The Doctor wrote: O666 wrote: Oh please one question: Which GOD you talked about? I swear R.F cant create World or Trees or Animals or ...He wasnt make Big Bang. He cant Does god play guitar? Did he compose the music for Lizard? LTIA? Has god provided us with hours upon hours of excellent music? I think not.

O666 wrote: twosteves wrote: O666 wrote: Rating RF?! Underrate maybe but overrate..... I dont understand some of members. I saw strange posts these days in PA. One guy said "I hate Yes" and other guy write "Genesis hit me" (in positive attitude) and now "Robert Fripp is overrated". I think some guys come in wrong address!! Maybe some of you dont like Progressive music. Maybe some guys try to show themselves "Different Guys". Who knows. I know what you mean--but I hate VDGG and usually dive for cover when I say it ---but prog is a big universe and you can't expect to appreciate all of it---but not thinking Fripp is the great and powerful Oz and not liking Yes or Genesis is totally not acceptable Good point. I dont like many of giants in PA like many members but I cant talk about them negative!! You get my point and I get yours Thanks.

Dayvenkirq wrote: LSDisease wrote: Dayvenkirq wrote: LSDisease wrote: Dayvenkirq wrote: <span style="line-height: 1.2;">The chords don't have to be simple. It's the fact that you use many different chords in a particular way, in a single section or a number of sections, that determines how complicated a piece is </span><u style="line-height: 1.2;">in detail<span style="line-height: 1.2;">. Think "A Saucerful of Secrets". That one is all AA...A (closed with a Bmaj), but that A-section entails so many different major chords that the section is </span><span style="line-height: 1.2;">truly</span><span style="line-height: 1.2;"> </span><span style="line-height: 1.2;">complicated </span><u style="line-height: 1.2;">in detail<span style="line-height: 1.2;">.</span> Don't have to but sometimes are and I am talking about the situation when there are many simple chords in the composition. Is it complex? Don't think so. (Then we are talking about the same thing.) How is a piece with many more chords in it not more complicated? I've just brought up an example. If all chords are simple I don't see complexity here. Again, they don't have to be complex. More chords - more of musical information, more complication in the detail of a piece.

I agree. It's the relationship between the chords. For instance, in music theory, a regular major chord could be a functional equivalent of a minor 7th one and a half steps lower because it use the same notes aside from the root note of the minor 7th. Nevertheless, Fripp has been known to use 13th chords and the like. I don't believe he was any slouch in designing chord progressions.

LSDisease wrote: Dayvenkirq wrote:   Again, they don't have to be complex. More chords - more of musical information, more complication in the detail of a piece. it's still not complex, it's just more complicated than a piece with less chords.

I think it depends on how many chords, how much information is put into the piece.

Edited by Dayvenkirq - August 01 2014 at 16:17

No. He deserves every accolade anyone can think of. The most consistent prog guitarist ever.