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Prog_Traveller ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 29 2005 Location: Bucks county PA Status: Offline Points: 1474 |
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When I was a teen Genesis were one of the bands to get me excited about prog. My big three were probably YES, GENESIS and King Crimson. These were the bands I was most excited about at that time. To a lesser extent I liked the Moody Blues, Pink Floyd, RUSH, ELP and Jethro Tull. By the time I was into prog I had almost completely forgotten about Led Zeppelin, The Who, The Rolling Stones and the Beatles and didn't consider them prog at all. As for Genesis I first got into their popular stuff then worked my way back and was of course more impressed with the older stuff as I didn't consider much of the later stuff to be prog.
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rogerthat ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: September 03 2006 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 9869 |
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Nice to hear about your experience with SEBTP. I can sort of relate to it and in a way I can't too. SEBTP, specifically Firth of the fifth, was what got me into prog bigtime so I never had to stint on them, waiting for them to 'click'. But the experience as such was as exciting as how you described it. Maybe a little more, because I didn't know what to expect more and was totally blown away. I don't even like Firth, barring the guitar solo, as much as I used to at that time. Although it's a great album, it's not my favourite Genesis album anymore.
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richardh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 29577 |
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Nice band but a little overrated
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Mirror Image ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 13 2011 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2111 |
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Complete BS IMHO. How are they overrated? I think they deserve all the accolades that can be given to them.
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“Music is enough for a lifetime but a lifetime is not enough for music.” - Sergei Rachmaninov
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lazland ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: October 28 2008 Location: Wales Status: Offline Points: 13798 |
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My toss is bigger than your toss
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Barbu ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 09 2005 Location: infinity Status: Offline Points: 30855 |
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The Bearded Bard ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: January 24 2012 Location: Behind the Sun Status: Offline Points: 12859 |
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^ False!
Their pop period? Sure! Their prog period? Well, in prog circles they get the appreciation they deserve, but from the outside-of-prog press and media, and the general public, surely not? Edited by The Bearded Bard - July 19 2014 at 18:03 |
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Mirror Image ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 13 2011 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2111 |
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Another BS post. Again, I'll ask: how are Genesis overrated? Tell me how this band has saturated the market and everyone and their brother is going out and buying their albums. Tell me how. If you can't, then just put a sock in it.
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“Music is enough for a lifetime but a lifetime is not enough for music.” - Sergei Rachmaninov
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Horizons ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: January 20 2011 Location: Somewhere Else Status: Offline Points: 16952 |
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I'm not sure how having everyone going out to buy their albums at the moment relates to how overrated a band is in prog circles. Though i'm sure during their pop period the situation you described happened to an extent.
Don't get so defensive when someone makes a remark that disagrees with your opinion in the smallest way. He didn't even come off in a troll way or in a barbed manner. It's okay to care about a band deeply or even defend against a statement (disagreeing thoughts does happen!), but if youre going to erupt into flames the second it happens, i suggest you not read threads discussing that particular band.
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Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.
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ProgMetaller2112 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 08 2012 Location: Pacoima,CA,USA Status: Offline Points: 3150 |
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Never heard of this Genesis that everyone here is talking about
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Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.” ― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four "Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart |
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Mirror Image ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 13 2011 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2111 |
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I understand, but, at the same time, all I did was ask a simple question and I still haven't received a reply yet, which isn't surprising. ![]() |
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“Music is enough for a lifetime but a lifetime is not enough for music.” - Sergei Rachmaninov
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Horizons ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: January 20 2011 Location: Somewhere Else Status: Offline Points: 16952 |
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Well i responded to your second part
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Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.
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rogerthat ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: September 03 2006 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 9869 |
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Indeed it shouldn't surprise you because if you jump to call something BS without waiting for the other side to attempt to clarify, nobody should indeed bother responding. You think it's BS,big deal! Genesis is not your personal possession, you know.
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richardh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 29577 |
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Chill out! No band is untouchable. However I was going for a tad ironic comment. People shouldn't get upset over opinions. Genesis make very listenable music and occasionally hit some massive heights but not everything they did was brilliant. I'm not just talking about the pop years but even during their most vaunted period I feel they lacked consistency and I struggle to share the same unquestioning love for SEBTP and LLDOB that presumably you and others have. ATOTT is perhaps the one exception for me. That is a beautiful album but then just about every band has at least one beautiful album in them. ![]() |
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richardh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 29577 |
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Yep agreed.I would also add that I generally look at the forum once a day so I'm not going to respond immediately to every question thrown at me.
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addictedtoprog ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 16 2014 Location: india Status: Offline Points: 1422 |
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Selling England By The Pound-Greatest symphonic prog album of alltime..
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Barbu ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 09 2005 Location: infinity Status: Offline Points: 30855 |
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Dellinger ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: June 18 2009 Location: Mexico Status: Offline Points: 12816 |
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I would think using the word overrated for a band most people here love is a bit trollish. It's been discussed before, though I think I've not seen the argument for a while now. If he had said he didn't like Genesis as much as most people here, surely he wouldn't have received such harch responses. However, sayin they are overrated implies that everyone who love the band are wrong, which is a very pretentious thing to do.
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Slartibartfast ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: April 29 2006 Location: Atlantais Status: Offline Points: 29630 |
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I was a big radio listener when And Then There Were Three and the hit Follow You Follow Me came out and I still have a soft spot for that. My brother had a combo album that was Nursery Cryme and Foxtrot that that the label - The Best Of Genesis. That one more than anything turned me into a huge prog rock fan. I was already a big fan of and had Wakeman's Journey and King Arthur. I was already a Beatles fan and that didn't change. Didn't really get into Led until about 10 years ago. I remember The Who for the instrumental Tommy theme but am still not a particular fan. Can definitely leave and not take the Rolling Stones. If I wind up with one of their albums in my collection it will be Their Satanic Majesties Request... |
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Mellotron Storm ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 27 2006 Location: The Beach Status: Offline Points: 14066 |
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One of my daughters got me a Genesis t-shirt for my birthday which was a pleasant surprise. She's 20 and mostly into screaming music.
![]() ![]() Oh, and last night my son's friend told me "Nice t-shirt Johnny!" as they were all walking out the door. I'm curious to see if he really is into Genesis the next time I talk to him.
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