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Dayvenkirq 
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 Posted: July 14 2014 at 01:11 |
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richardh
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Posted: July 14 2014 at 00:46 |
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Sadly I have no idea what that comment is meant to mean so i can't respond |
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The Dark Elf
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Posted: July 13 2014 at 10:22 |
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I have never been enamored of TFTOOT, preferring CTTEET. Perhaps because I genuinely enjoy seeing a good car crash.
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...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined
to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
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Dean
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Posted: July 13 2014 at 10:11 |
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Originally it was a euphemism rather than a metaphor, but I thought everyone knew that.
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M27Barney
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Posted: July 13 2014 at 06:06 |
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^ is that another one of those metaphor thingies??
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Dean
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Posted: July 13 2014 at 02:54 |
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 Progressive Rock. |
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richardh
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Posted: July 13 2014 at 02:45 |
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'rock songs' we are not exacly talking Black Sabbath or Deep Purple The first part of CTTE is all about Bruford for me. Totally sublime. Wakeman takes over a bit later but not before Anderson does his 'thing'. It marries together some diverse musical ideas perfectly. Sorry not 'smasing' them together as you suggest. Its a brilliant prog track although Yes achieved better with Gates Of Delirium admittedly.
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Epignosis
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Posted: July 12 2014 at 07:23 |
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For quite some time I would skip the first three minutes of "Close to the Edge." I thought it was a mess. As I emerged from my teenage years I started making it a point to listen to entire albums, warts and all. That practice changed the way I appreciated music and provided a context; even if I still didn't care for a particular passage, it provided a contrast that enabled a deeper insight into musical composition.
Tales from Topographic Oceans was love at first listen. I still remember hearing it for the first, second, and third times. This was during a wonderful phase in my life when I knew I was acquiring an amazing Yes album because of the fantastical Roger Dean artwork (something called Union would one day elevate me from innocence to experience). |
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Dean
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Posted: July 12 2014 at 05:19 |
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The awesomeness of the title track is not obvious to me - it is three (albeit good) rock songs smashed together with the final section formed from the remnants of the other three - the seguing between the sections is masterful and the use of recurring melody and harmony is well executed (all praise The Wakeman) but that is not enough to make it awesome for me.
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richardh
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Posted: July 12 2014 at 05:08 |
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I suppose I could resurrect that idea to completly reverse the running order. There is a thread about it somewhere but Siberian Khatru made a nice opening track for the live shows so it must be tempting to listen to it first. I would consider putting And You And I at the back. Its such a beautiful track and feels like an 'end'. Nothing can follow it!
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M27Barney
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Posted: July 12 2014 at 04:19 |
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The best track on it is obviously And You and I - a classic of symphonic prog rock if ever there was one...obviously the title track is also awesome and Siberian khatru is one of those tracks that grows on you over the years, though the poorest track on the album by a long margin...
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Dean
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Posted: July 11 2014 at 16:09 |
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Because I don't think it is, I quite like side two.
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M27Barney
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Posted: July 11 2014 at 15:59 |
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Metaphor eh....Why use one of them when you could just say you think it's sh*t.....
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Dean
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Posted: July 11 2014 at 15:55 |
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I suspect you may be taking the car-crash metaphor a tad too literally.
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M27Barney
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Posted: July 11 2014 at 15:48 |
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Well I suppose the clanking industrial guitar solo intro by Howe is an acquired taste...bit like Holt's Bitter really or Marmite...
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Dean
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Posted: July 11 2014 at 15:43 |
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...you missed the white transit van ...CTTE is a three car pile up.
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M27Barney
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Posted: July 11 2014 at 15:36 |
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Pink Floyd went in for sound-effects , I can hear streams and insects & birds at the start of Close to the Edge.....I have never picked out the sound of a Ford Capri, Driven by a cockney wide-boy into a sh*t-brown allegro driven by a spinster headmistress on the Tottenham Court Road, in 1973.......
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Dean
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Posted: July 11 2014 at 15:32 |
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I have no shame. My actual words were: "Tales from Topographic Oceans is a marvellous album, my second favourite Yes album in fact (beaten only by the magnificent Relayer) and far better than the car-crash that is CTTE." ... and I stand by that assessment and can back it up if need be.
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M27Barney
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Posted: July 11 2014 at 15:19 |
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Heterosexual Anal Penetration - Sounds like we're back in 1976 again - people whinging about the prog bands disappearing up their own arses (how apt) - and then "Heterosexual Anal Penetration" come along with their new wave epic - "Slap your bollocks on her backside nice and hard".......
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: July 11 2014 at 11:57 |
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