Gun Haters’ Forum

Vibrationbaby wrote: It`s so much the guns, but some of the maniacs who get ther hands on them. Guns scare me. We are no longer living in the wild west.

You've never been to Brooklyn, have you?? 

threefates wrote: Thanks James.. you explain it so much better.. However, Reed, you look at the idea of banning guns as a deterrent to people getting killed, but thats just not the case.  When really, we should be taking a better look at the mental states of those around us and taking our stands there. For instance, the people who worked with that guy who shot Dimebag last week, said he had been off his rocker for the last few months, talking to himself and acting very agitated.. and yet they did nothing to help him or contact anyone who could.  It all reminds me of the PF song "On the Turning Away"... we've become so phobic on getting involved.

I am not contradicting you on the first part but to whom do we contact?  Most authorities don't care and would do little to step in and do anything until someone has committed a crime or put someone else or themselves in danger. Someone who is a bit emotionally unstable cannot be legally arrested for anything or forced to seek medical attention.  The more people exist automatically increases more unstable people.  The pressures of our Society also trigger a lot of stress and emotional instability.  Where do we draw the line?

 I agree that we do not need to unnecessarily give back rights so hard earned by the lives of many who went before us or because the rest of the world says it is the way to go. I have never owned a gun and probably never will but that does not mean I want my right or ability to own one taken away.

The reason for my feeling that way is once the Constitution is tampered with that way the rest of the right listed will fall. Just watch!

Actually, that cartoon reminds me of a picture I saw a few years ago of Bobby Sands, the IRA prisoner who was starving himself in prison at that time.  It was a picture of his parents all lovey-dovey sitting on a bench with their arms around each other.. and a young Bobby of about 10 standing behind them with a rifle in his hands and a band on his left arm...

And you call us dangerous!

If only agreeing to differ would solve anything......but it doesnt.That is a cop out so all I can say is : you people are very dangerous!

Must be the lack of sleep! Where do you live James? I'm trying to work out the time diff.

I've been to bed and got up again whilst you lot have been performing keyboard-fellatio!

Thanks James.. you explain it so much better..

However, Reed, you look at the idea of banning guns as a deterrent to people getting killed, but thats just not the case.  When really, we should be taking a better look at the mental states of those around us and taking our stands there. For instance, the people who worked with that guy who shot Dimebag last week, said he had been off his rocker for the last few months, talking to himself and acting very agitated.. and yet they did nothing to help him or contact anyone who could. 

It all reminds me of the PF song "On the Turning Away"... we've become so phobic on getting involved.

I guess you'll turn up here next James.

Goodnight!

I think the point is about freedom. If you're against freedom, that's fine; history proves that most of the truly effective countries have extremely restrictive governments.

I'll continue to hold out for more freedom, even for things I don't care for. I don't own a gun (I probably couldn't legally purchase one anyway, but I haven't tried) and I hate the thought of killing animals for fun. So did my father, an avid hunter in his youth, who taught me from a young age how to operate and have respect for guns.

But when it comes down to having less freedom or more, it's a clear choice for me.

Reed Lover wrote: Joren wrote: Carrying a gun is legal, smoking pot is illegal. I'm glad I don't live in the USA. Me too, apparently you deserve to be shot for speaking out against the gun-lovers!

Why people would want to shoot you has nothing to do with your stance on gun control.... far from it!!