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Topic: Ronnie Foster Posted: June 12 2014 at 03:26
Jimmy Smiths favorite student produced gems like On the avenue and Two headed freep. Should be in the archives for sure. Anyone else heard him?
Edited by dr prog - June 12 2014 at 07:06
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Posted: June 12 2014 at 07:02
Dean wrote:
chopper wrote:
No, shouldn't this be in Suggest New Bands?
No, it should be on Jazz Music Archives.
Ronnie Foster is not a Progressive Rock artist by any stretch of the imagination.
He sure is. Very much is the same vein as Brian auger
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Posted: June 12 2014 at 07:03
chopper wrote:
No, shouldn't this be in Suggest New Bands?
First album 1972. Yeah it's new
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Posted: June 12 2014 at 07:07
THIS IS PROG
IF YOU THINK IT'S NOT THEN PROG DOESN'T EXIST
All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.
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Posted: June 12 2014 at 08:51
chopper wrote:
Dean wrote:
chopper wrote:
dr prog wrote:
THIS IS PROG IF YOU THINK IT'S NOT THEN PROG DOESN'T EXIST
OMG, Dean thinks it isn't prog, so prog doesn't exist! What have I been listening to all these years?
All that is not Jazz, probably.
I've got some Miles Davis stuff, but he must be prog because he's in PA.
Prog related
All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.
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Posted: June 12 2014 at 10:01
Dean wrote:
dr prog wrote:
chopper wrote:
Dean wrote:
chopper wrote:
dr prog wrote:
THIS IS PROG IF YOU THINK IT'S NOT THEN PROG DOESN'T EXIST
OMG, Dean thinks it isn't prog, so prog doesn't exist! What have I been listening to all these years?
All that is not Jazz, probably.
I've got some Miles Davis stuff, but he must be prog because he's in PA.
Prog related
He's not in Prog Related.
No he's in Jazz Rock/Fusion which is fair enough. I do have a problem with "Kind of Blue" being in the PA Top 100 since it's clearly not a prog album, but hey, I digress.
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Posted: June 12 2014 at 16:26
Dean wrote:
dr prog wrote:
chopper wrote:
Dean wrote:
chopper wrote:
dr prog wrote:
THIS IS PROG IF YOU THINK IT'S NOT THEN PROG DOESN'T EXIST
OMG, Dean thinks it isn't prog, so prog doesn't exist! What have I been listening to all these years?
All that is not Jazz, probably.
I've got some Miles Davis stuff, but he must be prog because he's in PA.
Prog related
He's not in Prog Related.
Well if he's in the archives he must be prog related. What I've heard sounds like straight jazz. I'm don't think he sounds prog related from what I've heard. Ronnie foster is a lot closer to prog though
All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.
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Posted: June 12 2014 at 17:49
Edited by dr prog - June 12 2014 at 18:26
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Posted: June 12 2014 at 23:42
The site maintains specific definitions of different genres within and related to Prog. Miles is an unusual case, because his later work is clearly J/R Fusion, but his earlier work is not. Since the site has a complete catalog policy, we end up with the oddity of some music that is clearly not Prog, like Kind of Blue and the early Beatles albums. No Prog there, but still good music. This may be blasphemous to some, but let's be honest: not all good music is Prog, nor is all Prog good music.
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Posted: June 13 2014 at 00:57
Progosopher wrote:
The site maintains specific definitions of different genres within and related to Prog. Miles is an unusual case, because his later work is clearly J/R Fusion, but his earlier work is not. Since the site has a complete catalog policy, we end up with the oddity of some music that is clearly not Prog, like Kind of Blue and the early Beatles albums. No Prog there, but still good music. This may be blasphemous to some, but let's be honest: not all good music is Prog, nor is all Prog good music.
It is not blasphemy at all. I also appreciate a bit of honesty, and, you are right, not all good music is prog, and neither is all prog good music, either.
So far, so agreed!
However, this is, unless I am mistaken, a progressive rock music archival site, not a jazzy twiddling knobs site, not a porngraphic electronic site. Nor a throbbing gristle site. It is a prog rock site.
You are right that the site has a complete catalogue policy, which is also, in the context of a progressive rock site, a bloody silly policy, frankly. Miles Davis is merely the silliest example we have of blatantly non prog albums being included. If this were called Progandothersortsofstuffarchives.com then fair enough, I suppose. It ain't though.
BTW, the suggestion is one of the daftest I have seen, and that is saying something.
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Posted: June 13 2014 at 03:11
If the melody and sound isn't classical or jazz based I won't enjoy it. So everything I like is prog related. I don't like straight styles of music eg funk, hard rock, blues, disco etc but when they are done with jazz and classical based melody and instruments then things become interesting. That's what prog is
Edited by dr prog - June 13 2014 at 03:19
All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.
I moved this to the general music discussions.
Doc: if you are serious about suggesting this guy, then please take a look at some of the (well written and informed) suggestions we have in that part of the forum. That means music in the form of vids or links, like you have provided here, but also bio and thoughts on why you think it deserves a place on here, ie Prog Archives.
Personally I don't hear enough to warrant an inclusion. If we started including this type of jazz, we would end up with Jazz Archives pt 2.
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