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rogerthat
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Posted: June 02 2014 at 10:05 |
If what you are trying to say is that the American intellectual tradition is itself derived from European (Western) thought, that's not quite the same thing as saying America has NO intellectual tradition (which seems to imply that no intellectual activity takes place in America).
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The T
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Posted: June 02 2014 at 10:21 |
The whole thing could be a language one you know... Depending on where the original guy was coming from, "you have no culture" can mean "you are ignorant" and that's what that guy could have been really saying instead of "you have no cultural tradition". Even though "Americans are ignorant" is a generalization too, and an erroneous one, that's more of a typical impression that some have in the world than "Americans have no cultural tradition" because even haters don't deny it, or at least acknowledge it quite respectable past (even if they later attack the destruction of everybody's culture but current American commercialism).
Just trying to interpret things...
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Dean
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Posted: June 02 2014 at 10:28 |
I'm glad people read my posts.
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What?
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The T
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Posted: June 02 2014 at 10:59 |
It's because people here in PA have no culture...
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King of Loss
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Posted: June 02 2014 at 16:41 |
Thanks for the visceral reaction, everybody! 
I was going to spend a hour of my time to write something for something that I was discussing with my friend on a music forum, but I think I'm going to delete all my posts here in this thread. Deleted! 
Edited by King of Loss - June 02 2014 at 16:46
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The T
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Posted: June 02 2014 at 16:54 |
It would have been an interesting read.
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King of Loss
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Posted: June 02 2014 at 17:07 |
The T wrote:
It would have been an interesting read. |
I was having a discussion with my friend, whose family came over here on the Mayflower, about this particular curious topic a day before. He didn't think I was being anti-American. He considers America to have limited intellectual culture, but rich culture elsewhere in creating popular and commercial culture (which I tend to agree with).
On a side note, I laughed when he said that we should nominate Jean-Jacques Rosseau as the next nominee for the Democratic Party. 
Edited by King of Loss - June 02 2014 at 17:08
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akamaisondufromage
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Posted: June 02 2014 at 17:16 |
Dean wrote:
I'm glad people read my posts.  |
Did you post something?
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Help me I'm falling!
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The T
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Posted: June 02 2014 at 17:25 |
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Horizons
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Posted: June 02 2014 at 17:30 |
I pop in just see someone deleting all their posts. What.
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Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.
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Polymorphia
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Posted: June 02 2014 at 17:37 |
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The T
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Posted: June 02 2014 at 17:47 |
Polymorphia wrote:
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Your deletion should be deleted.
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Polymorphia
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Posted: June 02 2014 at 17:51 |
The T wrote:
Polymorphia wrote:
Deleted | Your deletion should be deleted. |
Resulting in the rebirth of a comment that roughly said, "Deleted"
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akamaisondufromage
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Posted: June 02 2014 at 17:57 |
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Help me I'm falling!
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The T
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Posted: June 02 2014 at 18:11 |
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Atavachron
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Posted: June 02 2014 at 20:23 |
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"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy
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ExittheLemming
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Posted: June 03 2014 at 02:14 |
I have precisely zero idea of what happened here since I last posted in this thread...some posts were deleted right?
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Atavachron
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Posted: June 03 2014 at 02:30 |
^ I think KoL deleted some of his posts
Edited by Atavachron - June 03 2014 at 02:30
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"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy
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*frinspar*
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Posted: June 03 2014 at 02:42 |
uhmurikas iz dum bucuz weer not yurup.
This is the gist of things.
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Atavachron
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Posted: June 03 2014 at 03:01 |
^ Except my 'friend' in the OP is from the Philippines, so the attitude was coming from a non-European
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"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy
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