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Tom Ozric
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Posted: June 01 2014 at 02:15 |
richardh wrote:
Tom Ozric wrote:
Sherwood, although rather commercially-minded, is quite a decent bass player. His playing on the recent Nektar album is superb. I haven't heard any of the Prog Collective albums yet, but I intend to change that real soon.
And Downes is excellent on the keys, I don't get why many folks diss him ?? |
For me its nothing to do with lacking ability but more his influence on the direction of the music. |
More Asia and Buggles in texture, I suppose.....
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: June 01 2014 at 02:18 |
cstack3 wrote:
Here's one of the songs from the new Yes album:I'm not sure of the source, but I like what I hear thus far, although Downes' synth solo reeks of Styx-like cheese! |
Hard to say really, too positive in nature.
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Kazza3
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Posted: June 01 2014 at 05:47 |
Well Yes have always been pretty positive, but the name of the channel - CheezMusic- says it all. The chorus in particular is very weak, there are some cool enough bits, but really overall exactly as schmultzy as I expected it to be.
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: June 01 2014 at 06:11 |
If only you knew ........
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Posted: June 01 2014 at 07:24 |
The tune is a little sickly sweet (wow, real shocker there , and it's not got the most memorable of melodies, sort of just plods along. Sounds better when Chris joins Jon on the chorus. The instrumental section in the middle and finale are nice, if simple. To it's credit, there's quite a lot of keyboard variety
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twosteves
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Posted: June 01 2014 at 09:27 |
sort of like it after one listen---although I wish instrumental parts would have ripped a little more.
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cstack3
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Posted: June 01 2014 at 12:18 |
twosteves wrote:
sort of like it after one listen---although I wish instrumental parts would have ripped a little more. |
I agree! I like this quite a bit more than anything on FFH, and Davison's vocals are a nice contribution.
Wish Howe had ripped into a solo, maybe his fingertips are shredded from all the touring they are doing?
I'm remaining positive about this....Downes is my least-favorite Yes keyboardist, and his contributions are underwhelming, but at least they are still moving at nearly 70 years old.
Here are a few more interviews & notes on the upcoming Yes album "Heaven and Earth"
"In the end, Yes had more material than could fit on the upcoming eight-track album, which Davison says will also have a special-edition bonus track."
Cool! Return of the 8-track!!
Edited by cstack3 - June 01 2014 at 12:28
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Zitro
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Posted: June 01 2014 at 16:02 |
Not feeling it =( It limps along for 8 minutes with no energy. I hate those keyboards too.
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Posted: June 01 2014 at 20:04 |
I'm not so sure about that track. It's got something that kind of puts me off at the beginning, and then the intrumental parts aren't really so beautiful, but I might just need to give it more listens to sink it in. So far, I liked many of the songs from the previous album better, even if they were mostly even poppier, and I actually felt Benoit's voice was more beautiful, even if Davison's actually sounds closer to Anderson's. But I guess it's just to early to form an opinion on the album, however, this song just lowered my expectations one step.
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twosteves
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Posted: June 01 2014 at 20:21 |
I know what Dellinger means about the voice--Think Benoits voice was not an exact clone of JA but had it's own nice tones which distinguished it----JD voice is high and actually sounds better recorded than live---where his voice sounds too high and almost shrill---JA never sounded shrill to me---well almost never. lol
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Posted: June 01 2014 at 22:54 |
Pass.
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Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect.
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: June 02 2014 at 01:11 |
twosteves wrote:
I know what Dellinger means about the voice--Think Benoits voice was not an exact clone of JA but had it's own nice tones which distinguished it----JD voice is high and actually sounds better recorded than live---where his voice sounds too high and almost shrill---JA never sounded shrill to me---well almost never. lol |
Agree, Davison is very close to Anderson, but even Anderson has more, shall we say, 'balls'. Maybe 'grit' is a better word, to his voice, Davison is, well, a frad 'whimpier' perhaps ?? I still love Glass Hammer, and I'm sure this track might possibly be a weaker track to what we get.......
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Kazza3
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Posted: June 02 2014 at 01:35 |
Agreed, it lacks the power, especially at the top, and can take on a whiny quality. And he has a strange habit of slowly sliding between notes which doesn't help that whiny quality. That said, I don't think the vocals are the problem here, Anderson singing on this wouldn't have made it a good song, to me.
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Dellinger
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Posted: June 02 2014 at 21:22 |
Tom Ozric wrote:
twosteves wrote:
I know what Dellinger means about the voice--Think Benoits voice was not an exact clone of JA but had it's own nice tones which distinguished it----JD voice is high and actually sounds better recorded than live---where his voice sounds too high and almost shrill---JA never sounded shrill to me---well almost never. lol | Agree, Davison is very close to Anderson, but even Anderson has more, shall we say, 'balls'. Maybe 'grit' is a better word, to his voice, Davison is, well, a frad 'whimpier' perhaps ?? I still love Glass Hammer, and I'm sure this track might possibly be a weaker track to what we get....... |
I hope you're right and this is among the weaker tracks. However, I would expect the first track to slip to the public should have been a stronger one... and if this is one of the longer songs on the album, that would be something to expect more of the song.
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: June 03 2014 at 00:32 |
^ I hope so, too.
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richardh
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Posted: June 03 2014 at 01:34 |
Appears to have been removed. I wonder why?!
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Aussie-Byrd-Brother
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Posted: June 03 2014 at 02:38 |
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Appears to have been removed. I wonder why?! |
Hmmmmm, was it the rather lukewarm reaction we Archivers mostly gave it?! I think so!
We're being watched, people!
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