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Svetonio

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Posted: April 25 2014 at 22:23

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Posted: April 25 2014 at 21:42

Golf Girl by Caravan screams prog...?

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Posted: April 25 2014 at 19:30

Yours is no Disgrace - The Yes Album - 1971. My first encounter with Progressive Rock. Somehow, life was never the same after that. I think it rewired my brain and I have been thankful for it ever since. Wink

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Posted: April 25 2014 at 14:01

Dancing With The Moonlit Knight by Genesis.

Oh and some other tunes by Genesis. But they have already been mentioned in this thread so I won't repeat them.

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Posted: April 25 2014 at 08:01

Both Gentle Giant and Van Der Graaf Generator scream prog to me.

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Posted: April 25 2014 at 05:39

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Posted: April 25 2014 at 02:34

^I've actually never heard anything live from Le Orme, although I just read Michael's (Aussie-Byrd) review here the other day. I may have to look for that 1997 clip on YouTube, thanks man Smile

Oh and I moved this thread to lists.

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Posted: April 24 2014 at 22:33

Guldbamsen wrote:

I think someone is confusing tracks that he loves with tracks that best represent Prog.

Personally I'd go for something like Fracture by KC or maybe this one by Le Orme:

oh yes that Le Orme piece is pure prog joy! The live version from a prog festival in 1997 was what turned me on to Le Orme in the first place

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Posted: April 24 2014 at 20:12

Horizons wrote:

I'm glad you've realized your error.

I'm sorry but to think that West of Hollywood screams prog is just simply wrong, Sounds like typical blues in a muzak style. Nothing about that song is progressive, let alone prog.

Regardless of SD being on this site, their music doesn't evoke prog, and just because they're on here doesn't mean i'm wrong. I could post a Solo Robert Plant song or maybe some material from Hazards Of Love, but they still wouldn't make sense for this thread.

It's not blues (let alone typical blues), and calling it muzak would be a bit harsh, no?
Yes, West of Hollywood is one of Steely Dan's more ambitious tracks, and at a push could be called prog... Just. Once again hardly screaming it. I think many of us here who know Steely Dan well would say they have their proggy moments, but overall, they're not a prog rock band.

Edit: Damn, I got into a "is it prog?" discussion. I was doing well not bothering with this sh*t, ya know. LOL

Edited by irrelevant - April 24 2014 at 20:23

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Posted: April 24 2014 at 19:55

Svetonio wrote:

irrelevant wrote:

^ Whatever floats ya boat. To me, very little of their stuff comes off as prog.

Jazzrock is also prog. Do you know this one:

Well, if this is not proggy screaming track, then I confess to almighty Prog Gods that I don't know what prog is.

Proggy jazz rock. That band sounds really cool! I'll investigate them further coz I really quite enjoyed that. Shame about the production. Hopefully it sounds a bit better not on youtube.

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Posted: April 24 2014 at 14:34

Svetonio, thats much better....

Now consider what a critic of Prog Rock might call "screaming prog". Rock critics have always pointed to two things in particular that they find distressing about prog. One, it is "mature" (i.e. also complex, sophisitated, etc) rather than "adolescent". And two, it is non-blues based. Rock purists insist that true rock be grounded in the adolescent experience and be blues based (shooting themselves IMHO in the foot for suggesting that true rock cannot be "mature". Ye God, man - lets stumble through those three chords one more time, OK - and once we've mastered those and are ready to move on, we can no longer consider ourselves to be true rock musicians but uppity types now?)

Anyway, so then "screaming" prog would then be the least adolescent and the least blues based music in all of rock.

With that in mind, I might nominate Gentle Giant as the definative screaming prog band. Why, because its the band that i picture ROCK PURISTS AS HATING THE MOST!!!...:) IEEEEAAHH!!

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Edited by aldri7 - April 24 2014 at 14:43

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Posted: April 24 2014 at 14:18

aldri7 wrote:

My definition of "screaming prog" - if I would feel a bit hesitant to play it for a girl I didn't know too well on a first date, it is probably screaming prog.

ex. Fountain of Salmacis, Dancing with the Moonlit Knight, The Cinema Show, The Musical Box (all Genesis). BTW - I think Supper's Ready is overrated :) All great, classic songs, but maybe I'd wait for the 2nd or 3rd date...

Happy the Man screams prog (ex. Upon the Rainbow) and Gentle Giant

Neither KC nor Pink Floyd scream prog to me. Great music, but "scream" means, like, totally in your face, undiluted, unabashed, and just a wee bit nuts.

I would probably not play "Squirrel" by Anthony Phillips to a girl on a first date either.

But now - I don't think the poster was asking for favorites necessarily - just prog that screams prog. For me, whether it screams or not is not as important as other factors.

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Posted: April 24 2014 at 14:07

I think, personally, the most instantaneous confrontation of prog at the start of a song lies in The Gates of Delirium by Yes. Just close your eyes and you'll enter a different world, most likely run by Roger Dean.

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Posted: April 24 2014 at 14:00

Svetonio wrote:

aldri7 wrote:

Svetonio wrote:

irrelevant wrote:

^ Whatever floats ya boat. To me, very little of their stuff comes off as prog.

Jazzrock is also prog. Do you know this one:

Well, if this is not proggy screaming track, then I confess to almighty Prog Gods that I don't know what prog is.

If this screams prog, then maybe its atonality that you are confusing with or using to define prog?

Not to sound like a screaming Prog God, which I confess to not being, but I think you have some listening to do. Consider the bands that are considered here to be the most authentically prog bands - Genesis, Yes, King Crimson, ELP, Echolyn, Gentle Giant, etc. Listen to them. Now listen to that track you posted again..

I love jazzrock, but its kinda funny as I am reading this thread how little so many people's idea of what is screaming prog resembles my idea. I would expect this somewhat, but I'll try to remember this the next time i am in a group of people and I try to tell them how much I like prog. The resulting aural images that they conjure up, and the way they that contort their faces in response to what I have just said - well, I cannot have any control over that..:(

My sister once tried to describe to me what to her was this awful music that she heard once in an office. She was actually describing jazzrock, or fusion, but her description was hilarious. Anyway, prog is similarly something you can't really describe in words, you can only listen to it and compare. But thats what so great about the internet and prgarchives.com - ANYONE can now become a Prog God if they have a little time on their hands!!

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Produced by Carl Palmer

http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=5095#discography

So if Carl Palmer produced an album by Peters and Lee, they would qualify as prog then?

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Posted: April 24 2014 at 13:59

Svetonio wrote:

irrelevant wrote:

^ Whatever floats ya boat. To me, very little of their stuff comes off as prog.

Jazzrock is also prog. Do you know this one:

Well, if this is not proggy screaming track, then I confess to almighty Prog Gods that I don't know what prog is.

I would say that's definitely a jazzy screaming track.

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Posted: April 24 2014 at 13:57

Another thread ruined.

Though this quickly went from sad to hilarious from the complete lack of disconnect.

Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.

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Posted: April 24 2014 at 13:32

As always you completely fail to understand what is being said Confused

So this is 'the song that screams prog'.........by association? Wow....

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Posted: April 24 2014 at 13:23

aldri7 wrote:

Svetonio wrote:

irrelevant wrote:

^ Whatever floats ya boat. To me, very little of their stuff comes off as prog.

Jazzrock is also prog. Do you know this one:

Well, if this is not proggy screaming track, then I confess to almighty Prog Gods that I don't know what prog is.

If this screams prog, then maybe its atonality that you are confusing with or using to define prog?

aldri7

Line-up / Musicians

Colin Hodgkinson - Basses, Guitars, Vocals
Ron Aspery - Sax, E-Piano, Piano, Organ, Mellotron
Adrian Tilbrook - Drums, Percussion
Produced by Carl Palmer

http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=5095#discography