Damn Animals with Pink Floyd is overrated!

Also Dogs has one of the best bass tunes which are not jazzy and this is very rare really :) btw I love Jazz

Edited by Kati - April 17 2014 at 23:45

richardh wrote: M27Barney wrote: Punks were just a tool to make more money for the labels and backers, the prog musicians were getting to be costly, because they wanted to do THEIR thing, rather than sell moron music to the masses.... The great rock an roll swindle INDEED! I'm with you on this ole bean.

Punk was a lot of things and yes sometimes moronic, but to level the charge of populism at a genre that is characterised by aggression, confrontational dissent, anarchy, left wing agit-prop, raw and visceral textures, nihilism and a proactive DIY ethos certainly must qualify as plain vanilla moronic


Edited by ExittheLemming - April 18 2014 at 02:48

M27Barney wrote: Floyd , however were far more marketable and profitable so were not targeted as "Dinosaurs" like the other (better) prog rock outfits!

^ Let's not forget Ian Anderson either, more sociopolitical

When I read the history of the post-WWII years, watch footage from that period, I am amazed by how Floyd were able to relate to important events and trends during that period, especially the late 60s to mid 70s period, and find space for it in their music.  This is not simple newspaper headline-quoting business, it's done more subtly and also captures the underlying emotions. Dark Elf made a comment about Vietnam and there's a beautiful line in Us and Them "Black and blue, And who knows which is which and who is who."  Is "For want of the price of tea and a slice the old man died" also a reference to the effect of price rise on the common man.   Waters may not have had too many literary muscles to flex but what comes through in his lyrics is a very perceptive reading of the world, one that doesn't sound hopelessly misguided circa 2014 and instead rings true to this day.  

rogerthat wrote: When I read the history of the post-WWII years, watch footage from that period, I am amazed by how Floyd were able to relate to important events and trends during that period, especially the late 60s to mid 70s period, and find space for it in their music.  This is not simple newspaper headline-quoting business, it's done more subtly and also captures the underlying emotions. Dark Elf made a comment about Vietnam and there's a beautiful line in Us and Them "Black and blue, And who knows which is which and who is who."  Is "For want of the price of tea and a slice the old man died" also a reference to the effect of price rise on the common man.   Waters may not have had too many literary muscles to flex but what comes through in his lyrics is a very perceptive reading of the world, one that doesn't sound hopelessly misguided circa 2014 and instead rings true to this day.

yup

rogerthat wrote: By and large, I don't consider lyrics all that important to appreciating the music.   ...

rogerthat wrote: That's kind of the point.  Anderson remained a hippie.  That is his personal choice and I respect that.  But Floyd were more in touch with the people and seemed to grow up, seemed to voice the same concerns that maybe their audience had.  If one doesn't like to hear that being put on a record, that's fine but to conclude that to be trying to make music that sold is naive.