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Points: 16952 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2014 at 23:06
Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

^ It just sounds like something a beginner drummer could play. Nothing pro about that.

Well, it's not too complicated - and that's the appeal of it. The in-the-pocket groove. It's like the famed Perdie Shuffle, the feeling of it is just sublime. Same case here, the production especially on the album makes the drums and particularly this rhythm sound even better. 

Additionally, i'd like to say that it isn't as easy as you think. A beginner drummer surely won't nail the song. Again, i'm also incorporating the feel and groove of it. The fact he makes it sound seamless is something that the rhythm calls for. 
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^ Sorry, I just don't hear any of that.

I guess to spot the little intricacies of the drum part I'd have to take a stab at it myself (but I don't have a kit), but I don't hear those little intricacies either.

Oh, well. ... Sucks for me.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znvPTMf18S0King Crimson - The Talking Drum / Larks' Tongues In Aspic Part 2   
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wHOOOHEEEE AAHHH yes here it is
King Crimson - 21st Century Schizoid Man [Drums Master Track]
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Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

^ Sorry, I just don't hear any of that.

I guess to spot the little intricacies of the drum part I'd have to take a stab at it myself (but I don't have a kit), but I don't hear those little intricacies either.

Oh, well. ... Sucks for me.

I think that giving drumming a try would help the appreciation of the subtleties of the instrument. I guss it's also just a matter of varying taste of what we expect to hear and what we like to enjoy from a drummer. As a member of the Math-Rock Team as well as being a percussionist for 5 years I can assure you that i absolutely love hearing impressive chops and creative rhythms. I just also love hearing simplicity sometimes. 

 
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just for fun and because it's really good Drum Duet - Phil Collins and Chester Thompson drums http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sA3rJXV4R4E
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Here's a few that nobody will care about.....
   The Bogus Man - Paul Thompson, Roxy Music
   I Found Love - Greg Elmore, Quicksilver Messenger Service
   Feelin' Alright - Richard Coughlan, Caravan
   The Only Thing She Needs - Terry Bozzio, UK
also Convenience (Clean and Easy) - John Weathers, Gentle Giant
     Manipulation - Danny Seraphine, Chicago

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Originally posted by RedNightmareKing RedNightmareKing wrote:

The big one that came to mind immediately was Rainbow's "Stargazer" by the amazing Cozy Powell.

yep me too although it was an 'edit' from the original version which had a heavy keyboard/synth intro

Would Tom Sawyer count?

Actually hard to think of that many

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Dance with the Devil by Cozy Powell has a great intro (later lifted by Boney M for Rasputin!), though I suppose the whole track is basically a drums showcase.
"And now...on the drums...Mick Underwooooooooood!!!"

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Split Enz' "Albert Of India" from the Waiata a.k.a. Corroboree - album; that has a subtle drum intro.
That band was really good at percussion.
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Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:


Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

Semi-professional drumming? What?
Come on ... compare him to Bill ... or Billy Cobham ... or Buddy Rich.


All 'professional' means is that one earns money from what one does. It's not a measure of actual skill or quality. Instinctively you may think it is, but in reality....it isn't.

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All 'professional' means is that one earns money from what one does. It's not a measure of actual skill or quality. Insticntly you may think it does, but....it doesn't.


Absolutely. Tracey Emin and Damien Hirst are "professional" artists. Sorry, just couldn't resist that cheap shot.Embarrassed
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Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:


Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

Semi-professional drumming? What?
Come on ... compare him to Bill ... or Billy Cobham ... or Buddy Rich.


All 'professional' means is that one earns money from what one does. It's not a measure of actual skill or quality. Insticntly you may think it does, but....it doesn't.
that i exactly what i was about to say,, as redicules it might seem, You could be Bill Bruford an play like virtoustc god but without a paycheck , your an amatour, or you could be as technical as a tree trunk and earn monwy , aka professional.
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Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

Give me one performance where Ringo chopped proficiently. 

I have been in a lot of bands that have attempted to play "Get Back" - I've yet to find a drummer who could play it in the same way as Ringo - it sounds simple but getting the right feel to it is deceptively difficult. 

I will just quote a well-known quite reasonable prog drummer - Mr Phil Collins.

"Phil Collins, who was himself influenced by Starr, said; “Ringo is vastly underrated. The drum fills on the song "A Day in the Life" are very complex things. You could take a great drummer today and say, 'I want it like that.' He wouldn't know what to do.”
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Originally posted by Cactus Choir Cactus Choir wrote:

Dance with the Devil by Cozy Powell has a great intro (later lifted by Boney M for Rasputin!), though I suppose the whole track is basically a drums showcase.

Apart from the bit nicked from Hendrix. Wink
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Points: 1038 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 25 2014 at 06:59
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by Cactus Choir Cactus Choir wrote:

Dance with the Devil by Cozy Powell has a great intro (later lifted by Boney M for Rasputin!), though I suppose the whole track is basically a drums showcase.

Apart from the bit nicked from Hendrix. Wink


Yes, Third Stone from the Sun! Wonder how they managed to get away with that and not credit it.
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Originally posted by Cactus Choir Cactus Choir wrote:

Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by Cactus Choir Cactus Choir wrote:

Dance with the Devil by Cozy Powell has a great intro (later lifted by Boney M for Rasputin!), though I suppose the whole track is basically a drums showcase.

Apart from the bit nicked from Hendrix. Wink


Yes, Third Stone from the Sun! Wonder how they managed to get away with that and not credit it.

Maybe he had the same lawyers as Led Zeppelin.
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Any number of John Bonham's bone-crushing lead-ins. Often copied, never equalled.
...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined
to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology...
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