Metropolis Pt. 2 or The Mountain? - Progressive Rock Music Forum

Metropolis Pt.2

Thank you, now I am feeling very happy. Smile

When he rides, my fears subside.
For darkness turns once more to light.
Through the skies, his white horse flies.
To find a land beyond the night.

Neo-Romantic wrote:

I see what you mean. It does, however, have both of those things. Even if it may not be an operatic album featuring characters and settings like Metropolis, a story can still be detected in the tracking of the narrator's climb, fall, catharsis, etc. with each new track. Also, there is motivic recollection. Off the top of my head, the main theme from the first track does reappear, and that's not counting any thematic variation that goes on. It's a pretty deep album.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

proggman wrote:

So basically it's a theme and not a concept. I think a concept album needs to have a story and or a musical motif that reappears through the album.

Well there is a story. It doesn't fall into the rock opera category that Metropolis, being that the connections are a little more vague, but the ideas here are stronger than just a recurring theme, hence why it is a concept.

Looks like I've confused concept album with rock opera. A concept album doesn't need to be a rock opera, but a rock opera in recorded form must be a concept album. Thank you for making me understand that The Mountain is a concept album. Smile

When he rides, my fears subside.
For darkness turns once more to light.
Through the skies, his white horse flies.
To find a land beyond the night.

The Mountain is a fantastic album, my #2 of 2013.....but no competition to Scenes. Scenes is a full concept album it has a storyline, begining, middle, end..defined, great story and brilliant musicianship.

I don't see the references to DT and Haken either, but no problem, that's just me. Portnoy era DT will always win over Haken....but post Portnoy DT looses easily to Haken, hands down.

Personally, I prefer Billy the Mountain. And his stunning wife Ethell, of course.

...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined
to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology...

proggman wrote:

So basically it's a theme and not a concept. I think a concept album needs to have a story and or a musical motif that reappears through the album.

I see what you mean. It does, however, have both of those things. Even if it may not be an operatic album featuring characters and settings like Metropolis, a story can still be detected in the tracking of the narrator's climb, fall, catharsis, etc. with each new track. Also, there is motivic recollection. Off the top of my head, the main theme from the first track does reappear, and that's not counting any thematic variation that goes on. It's a pretty deep album.

Edited by Neo-Romantic - February 21 2014 at 11:54

So basically it's a theme and not a concept. I think a concept album needs to have a story and or a musical motif that reappears through the album.

When he rides, my fears subside.
For darkness turns once more to light.
Through the skies, his white horse flies.
To find a land beyond the night.

Xonty wrote:

Both heavy prog rock/metal albums with a strong concept running throughout for over an hour.

I don't think The Mountain is a concept album. If it's a concept album, what's the concept?

Edited by proggman - February 21 2014 at 01:50

When he rides, my fears subside.
For darkness turns once more to light.
Through the skies, his white horse flies.
To find a land beyond the night.

Both are great, but Haken's album appeals most to me.

Easily DT.

Poll Question: Which is better?
Poll Choice	Votes	Poll Statistics
Dream Theater - Metropolis Pt. 2: Scenes From A Memory	31	[75.61%]
Haken - The Mountain	10	[24.39%]
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