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Chris S
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Posted: February 03 2014 at 00:42 |
R.I.P Phillip Seymour Hoffman
" DOUBT" in faith more than any denomination. If you do not believe, it makes it all easy. If you do believe, many of those who did now have doubt.
So if this was a soccer match as Iain suggested, the believers would be letting in goals all over the place. It will take more than a few " transfers" to rectify the defensive frailties
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ExittheLemming
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Posted: February 03 2014 at 01:37 |
Chris S wrote:
R.I.P Phillip Seymour Hoffman
" DOUBT" in faith more than any denomination. If you do not believe, it makes it all easy. If you do believe, many of those who did now have doubt.
So if this was a soccer match as Iain suggested, the believers would be letting in goals all over the place. It will take more than a few " transfers" to rectify the defensive frailties |
Of more pressing concern is how do we get Ivan off the field to receive treatment for what is clearly either concussion or a nasty head knock? Decreased cognitive function? - check impaired vision? - check emotional outbursts? - checkbabbling incoherently? - checkdisorientation? - check Even Roy Keane in his prime would be loathe to take the boy Melgar on in a 50-50 challenge for a belief system
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: February 03 2014 at 01:51 |
Deep breaths, everyone.
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Dean
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Posted: February 03 2014 at 02:15 |
Yeth, and I'm only sithteen.
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: February 03 2014 at 10:14 |
It's useless.
Some claim for tolerance but omnly enjoy insulting what they don't believe in.
Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - February 03 2014 at 10:15
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Dean
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Posted: February 03 2014 at 10:19 |
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
It's useless.
Some claim for tolerance but omnly enjoy insulting what they don't believe in. |
Show me where I have insulted what I don't believe in.
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timothy leary
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Posted: February 03 2014 at 10:58 |
Carrots have feeling too
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The T
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Posted: February 03 2014 at 12:15 |
Come one Atheists and Agnostics are supposed to be more open than this...
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Dean
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Posted: February 03 2014 at 12:24 |
The T wrote:
Come one Atheists and Agnostics are supposed to be more open than this...
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Why so?
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akamaisondufromage
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Posted: February 03 2014 at 12:25 |
If you wanted to insult something you don't believe in then this would be the thread for it?
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The T
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Posted: February 03 2014 at 12:31 |
Dean wrote:
The T wrote:
Come one Atheists and Agnostics are supposed to be more open than this...
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Why so? |
Because that is something we (justifiably so) always have attacked about fanatic religious people.
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The T
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Posted: February 03 2014 at 12:31 |
akamaisondufromage wrote:
If you wanted to insult something you don't believe in then this would be the thread for it? |
No that would be the Jon Anderson thread...
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Dean
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Posted: February 03 2014 at 12:32 |
But where have we show any signs of not being "open"?
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: February 03 2014 at 13:44 |
timothy leary wrote:
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Wherever there was gold discovered you will find evidence of catholic missionaries. Just google gold and catholic missionaries and you can read for weeks. |
We are very open minded, not perfect, but respectful."
And then I fired the maid and took away her livelihood because she dared to think differently than me. |
Just one more thing
THE MAID IS NOT ALLOWED TO LET PEOPLE INTO MY HOUSE WITHOUT MY PERMISSION.
Lima is becoming a very dangerous city, I been robbed antiques for US$ 200,000 (I post it here a couple years ago), and never got them back.
One of the usual tactics is the Jehovah Witness, they say they come to read the Bible, and they point you with a gun.
I told her
1.- Nobody enters to this house without my express permission, except my sister, brother in law and my 2 nephews. 2.- We don't answer surveys 3.- I don't send third persons in my name if I have an accident. 4.- No preachers enter to my house, no matter what religion, not even people from the Parrish who usually come to take books or old clothes we leave them. 5.- Not even a person who claims to be my client, you tell them the doctor is not here and I'm not allowed to let anybody in.
And I see two guys seating in my living room when nobody was home
I put the rules in my house.
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: February 03 2014 at 13:45 |
Dean wrote:
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
It's useless.
Some claim for tolerance but omnly enjoy insulting what they don't believe in. |
Show me where I have insulted what I don't believe in. |
I said SOME.
Not Dean
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The T
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Posted: February 03 2014 at 13:55 |
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
timothy leary wrote:
timothy leary wrote:
Wherever there was gold discovered you will find evidence of catholic missionaries. Just google gold and catholic missionaries and you can read for weeks. |
We are very open minded, not perfect, but respectful."
And then I fired the maid and took away her livelihood because she dared to think differently than me. |
Just one more thing
THE MAID IS NOT ALLOWED TO LET PEOPLE INTO MY HOUSE WITHOUT MY PERMISSION.
Lima is becoming a very dangerous city, I been robbed antiques for US$ 200,000 (I post it here a couple years ago), and never got them back.
One of the usual tactics is the Jehovah Witness, they say they come to read the Bible, and they point you with a gun.
I told her
1.- Nobody enters to this house without my express permission, except my sister, brother in law and my 2 nephews. 2.- We don't answer surveys 3.- I don't send third persons in my name if I have an accident. 4.- No preachers enter to my house, no matter what religion, not even people from the Parrish who usually come to take books or old clothes we leave them. 5.- Not even a person who claims to be my client, you tell them the doctor is not here and I'm not allowed to let anybody in.
And I see two guys seating in my living room when nobody was home
I put the rules in my house. |
Yes, nobody should blame you for doing that.
Man not that anyone but really rich people can afford a maid here in the US, but even here I would quite quickly fire a maid who lets anyone into my house. Here it would be just an error. In countries like Peru or Ecuador it borders on stupidity and, sometimes, complicity.
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The T
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Posted: February 03 2014 at 13:56 |
Dean wrote:
But where have we show any signs of not being "open"? |
I propose you going back to being an Admin Piling up on Ivan (whose posts deserve some of that sometimes though ) is an example.
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The Dark Elf
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Posted: February 03 2014 at 14:31 |
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
It's useless.
Some claim for tolerance but omnly enjoy insulting what they don't believe in. |
A person can be tolerant of individuals, but intolerant of institutions, particularly those institutions that have an incredibly long history of corruption, murder and scandal, with no sign of true efforts to really change. I may regret that I came across rather acrimoniously here, but I won't say I am sorry for what I said. Because I believe what I said as firmly as you do, and I believe I can back everything up with as many factoids as you can throw out (except that I have the ability to limit my cut-and-pasting to pertinent facts).
But I will apologize for one thing. In a previous post I made the comment (and I paraphase) that the Anglican Church was not subject to a child abuse cover-up. Well, lo and behold! what did I discover in my research? The Anglican Church in Argentina is involved in a child-abuse, kidnapping and sex-trafficking cover-up with none other than Pope Francis I (previously Jorge Bergoglio of Argentina)!
Is it true? I don't know. But it is interesting that these annoying little bits of information keep coming out on the Church. Anyway, it's obvious the Anglican Church is as bad as the Catholic Church, and I am sorry for stating otherwise.
Edited by The Dark Elf - February 03 2014 at 14:33
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Dean
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Posted: February 03 2014 at 17:07 |
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
Dean wrote:
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
It's useless.
Some claim for tolerance but omnly enjoy insulting what they don't believe in. |
Show me where I have insulted what I don't believe in. |
I said SOME.
Not Dean |
I am the only person who made any mention of tolerance, therefore in this context that is SO ME.
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Dean
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Posted: February 03 2014 at 17:11 |
How can one person be piling up? And how is it exactly that I am "piling up" - All I ask is that he stops bludgeon us to death with floods of cut and pasted hypertext.
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