Deluge Grander "Heliotians"

Did someone say `vinyl'?! No, actually Jim, I'm not quite the slavish vinyl junkie I once was, a nice mix of CD's and LP's throughout the year is fine with me!

But, , I'm actually interested to check out this band. If my memory is right, I was very impressed with them on the `Romantic Warriors' documentary, so I'd like to give them a shot!

If anyone can suggest where to start with them even before this new one, please let me know!

Hmm...vinyl and CD together? Only 200 copies? This seems like an odd strategy.

Man With Hat wrote: Hmm...vinyl and CD together? Only 200 copies? This seems like an odd strategy.

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Why not also release it on a regular CD in a jewel case and sell them for $12-15?
A perfectly reasonable question.  A release like this does indeed fail to satisfy someone who just wants a regular CD.  I myself actually prefer regular CDs to expensive collectible vinyl LPs and electronic files.   But as music is heard on the Internet more often, I think if you're going to release music in a physical format, maybe you should try to make that physical format as artistic and interesting as you can.  This is one way to do that.  Many people also like to have music on vinyl records, the containers of which are big enough to allow sizable, tangible artwork.  Since roughly 2,000 people thought previous Deluge Grander albums were worth paying about $5-15 for in CD or electronic form, I'm hoping that maybe 100-200 will be willing to pay $38 for this handmade version, and that the rest will be content with the freely distributed video that contains all the music.  Additionally, this release is the first of a planned seven-album series, the upper tiers of which will likely be released in less expensive CD formats, containing new pieces with some of the music on this release.  I'm not sure if the whole series will actually be finished as planned; that depends mostly on how well things go with "Heliotians."

I have a vague imression that they try to sell the package rather than the music. Quite a pity since their debut is a true masterpiece and their sophomore album is also good.

Finnforest wrote: Man With Hat wrote: Hmm...vinyl and CD together? Only 200 copies? This seems like an odd strategy. In case you missed.....<font face="Tahoma">Why not also release it on a regular CD in a jewel case and sell them for $12-15? A perfectly reasonable question.  A release like this does indeed fail to satisfy someone who just wants a regular CD.  I myself actually prefer regular CDs to expensive collectible vinyl LPs and electronic files.   But as music is heard on the Internet more often, I think if you're going to release music in a physical format, maybe you should try to make that physical format as artistic and interesting as you can.  This is one way to do that.  Many people also like to have music on vinyl records, the containers of which are big enough to allow sizable, tangible artwork.  Since roughly 2,000 people thought previous Deluge Grander albums were worth paying about $5-15 for in CD or electronic form, I'm hoping that maybe 100-200 will be willing to pay $38 for this handmade version, and that the rest will be content with the freely distributed video that contains all the music.  Additionally, this release is the first of a planned seven-album series, the upper tiers of which will likely be released in less expensive CD formats, containing new pieces with some of the music on this release.  I'm not sure if the whole series will actually be finished as planned; that depends mostly on how well things go with "Heliotians."

Still seems an odd strategy to me. Obviously his products sells...so limiting it seems odd. Especially as a package of LP and CD.

Finnforest wrote: He explained that the cost of the discs is neglible, about $2 each.  So the cost is the packaging.  So if he were offering only one format, the cost would only be $2 less.  Like, vinyl alone would be $36 instead of $38.  So he just decided to do both and figured the hard core fans would appreciate both.  With regard to the music, I see no reason to suspect it would be of any less quality than previous releases.  These guys and gals are very talented...they just wanted to do something unique and special with the packaging.  They're having fun with the project.

Hnrz wrote: Hey, Dan just emailed me this! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzT5hLxMEng

Thanks! Listening now:

PabstRibbon wrote: So where do we buy ? I didn't find nothing on their official site

emkogceo wrote: February 5 is the "official release date," but some vendors will probably put up copies for sale before then.  Wayside Music (which is based less than a mile from where I live) actually got their copies hand-delivered a few days ago, and they're already for sale there (though for $50):    http://www.waysidemusic.com/Music-Products/Deluge-Grander-Heliotians-hand-painted-hand-numbered-vinyl-lp-plus-CD-(due-to-size-and-weight-this-price-for-the-USA-only-Outside-of-the-USA-the-price-will-be-adjusted-as-needed)__Emkog-spc-205.aspx

Currently listening to the album from Youtube... Still not quite sure if it's worth it, no matter how much I love the 2 other albums. Probably will wait till the next one (since they're planning 3 others). It's not captivating me, enveloping me with walls of sound like The Form of Good. Seems a bit rushed. Supposedly, it's "Atmospheric and Nappable" but I find Before the Common Era (intro to The Form of Good) reaching heights I'm not hearing in the first 14 minutes of Heliotians. I'll wait for Lunarians, being that it's "Intricate, Pastoral." I really wish this was a smash-hit, I've been a fan since August in the Urals first came out. Bantam to Behemoth blew me away from the first listen, and The Form of Good may very well be my favorite album from Dan.