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    Posted: January 10 2014 at 13:47
I've recently turned vegetarian as a NY resolution and I'm just interested to see who else is, or who else isn't. Moral discussion is also very welcome!

Edited by The Pessimist - January 10 2014 at 15:31
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 10 2014 at 13:53
I will never give up eating meat.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 10 2014 at 14:04
I'm a cyclothymic eater. What can I vote for? 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 10 2014 at 14:05
"Everything in moderation" said the ancient Greeks and they were probably right
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 10 2014 at 14:06
Originally posted by CPicard CPicard wrote:

I'm a cyclothymic eater. What can I vote for? 


I strongly suggest you don't vote and get to a doctor.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 10 2014 at 14:10
I'm a meat eater, and although I think I should eat a bit less meat, I don't plan to become a vegetarian.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 10 2014 at 14:33
Meat isn't really all that tasty for me. I don't really enjoy steakor bacon most the time wwhich I think is odd. I could probably be a vegetarian easier than most but the difficulty of getting protein otherwise and lack of good veggie options at restaurants make that kinda difficult. Also I love seafood so that would be hard to give up.
Tldr; being vegetarion is too much of a hassle for me to make the effort
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 10 2014 at 14:39
Originally posted by bloodnarfer bloodnarfer wrote:

Meat isn't really all that tasty for me. I don't really enjoy steakor bacon most the time wwhich I think is odd. I could probably be a vegetarian easier than most but the difficulty of getting protein otherwise and lack of good veggie options at restaurants make that kinda difficult. Also I love seafood so that would be hard to give up.
Tldr; being vegetarion is too much of a hassle for me to make the effort


It's really not as difficult as it sounds once you know what your options are. There are plenty of protein supplements out there that are slightly cheaper than meat (in England we have Quorn, Soya and Tofu) and a bit healthier too. You can also find protein in a lot of places where you wouldn't expect. Here's a useful chart:

http://www.healthaliciousness.com/articles/vegetables-high-in-protein.php
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 10 2014 at 14:41
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 10 2014 at 15:57
This thread probably will probably "meat" a rotten end.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 10 2014 at 15:59
I might need to give it APPLE in the right direction before that happens.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 10 2014 at 17:42
Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

I will never give up eating meat.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 10 2014 at 17:42
Meat is too delicious not to eat.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 11 2014 at 00:56
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 11 2014 at 01:15
I am omnivore, mixedcdiet of vegi and carni.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 11 2014 at 01:43
I am familiar with the benefits of vegetarianism but I couldn't live without steaks and burgers. Moderation is the key.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 11 2014 at 03:04
I eat meat, but the animal suffering that goes on at slaughterhouses and farms is unacceptable and something needs to be done.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 11 2014 at 03:16
Should be a new film series, like Men in Black and Ghost Busterw, callled Animal Rescuers. (
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 11 2014 at 03:23
Y'know - the meat presented at supermarkets is done so in such a way that you don't associate it with a living animal at initial glance.....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 11 2014 at 05:36
I dislike the term "meat eater" - I am not a meat eater, I am an omnivore, meat is a part of my diet, I also eat vegetables, dairy and fungi - that is not a "meat-eater" (carnivore) diet.

The disassociation between supermarket packaged meat and the animal in the field is an important point. That "naked lunch" moment when you realise what is at the end of your fork is not a complete reconnection, we were omnivorous before this disassociation existed. When we had to hunt, kill, butcher and prepare our own meat there was no compunction against eating it. I find this to be a curious observation because the revulsion against causing suffering to another animal is not a modern development, it too is a natural trait of the human animal - the necessity to kill to live did not desensitise us, being "humane" is not a newly acquired emotion but this disassociation has made us over-sensitive. 

Where this disassociation has had a negative effect is in the inhumane treatment of animals in intensive food production, we need to reconnect this association between the animal and the slab of meat to improve animal husbandry.

We are an omnivorous species, this is the only natural diet for a human being but the key is balance. There are many ways to be healthy, excluding meat from the diet is not the only way, a balanced diet is a healthy diet. We are not carnivores who survive solely on a meat diet and we are not herbivores who survive solely on a limited diet of one class of vegetable - vegetarianism is not a natural diet  [-vore diets are natural, -ism diets are man-made] - other species of animal do not eat a wide variety of vegetable food groups, they specialise on selected food groups (Frugivores, Folivores, Nectarivores, Granivore, Palynivores, Mucivores, Xylophages, etc). I suspect the reaction we have to killing is a natural regulatory process, just as the boredom we experience to eating the same thing over and over again is part of the same regulatory process, that maintains a balanced diet - variety is not only the spice of life, it is a necessary part of our natural diet that allows us to adapt to the seasonal nature of all food groups that is prevalent in temperate climate.

Our understanding of nutrition has permitted us to enjoy a vegetarian lifestyle, our technology has enabled us to make food groups non-seasonal so we can grow, harvest and transport any vegetable at any time we like anywhere in the world we like (this is not natural) and thus maintain a healthy balance all year round. 




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