2013 NFL Season

Wildcard Rd:
Packers over SF (Even though they're #21 in DVoA, I think the Packers scrape a win a home.)
Eagles over Saints (Saints are a different team on the road than at home.)
Chiefs over Colts (I think it's nuts the Colts are getting  -2.5 in this game.)
Bengals over Chargers (Cincy can put up 30-45 at home easily.)

Divisional:
Panthers over Eagles (Carolina's D I think is the edge.)
Seahawks over Packers (Unless they have to put up 30+, I don't see Seattle losing at home.)
Patriots over Chiefs (Pats. Foxboro. Divisional Round. Enough said.)
Bengals over Broncos (I might get laughed at for this one, but I could see both teams putting up 40 here. I have zero confidence in Denver's D, and I don't think they win a SB because of it. Von Miller was the only guy for them that I think worries other teams and he's out. I think which Dalton shows up here depends on who wins though.)

Champ:
Seahawks over Panthers (Given neither of these teams score big points and both have great defenses, I'll take the home team.)
Bengals over Pats (They already beat the Pats in Cincy, and I think Brady's done an incredible job of hiding the major inefficiencies they have offensively. I don't see it being enough to get them to another SB.)

SB: Seahawks over Bengals

Edited by horsewithteeth11 - December 30 2013 at 20:51

I did, yes. Thank you for that.

Equality 7-2521 wrote: ClemofNazareth wrote: Wildcards:Saints beat Eagles (the only team who can find more ways to waste talent than Philly is Dallas) Lol wot? The Eagles just set franchise records in yards. Had a player set a franchise record in rushing yards and yards from scrimmage. Had that same player win the league rushing title. Their QB leads the league in quarterback rating and posted the third best season quarterback rating of all time. Their two WRs both set career bests in TDS, yards, and receptions. They led the league in yards per play. They set a NFL record for most plays of 20+ yards. They're second in the league in yards and fourth in points. So lol wha?

And lost to three non-playoff teams and needed a turd INT from a career backup QB with two minutes to go at the end of the season to stumble their way into the playoffs. Like I said, wasted talent.

It stands to reason and year long play that the playoffs will end like this:

Equality 7-2521 wrote: That's a terrible argument which addresses none of the points I made. They lost to three non-playoff teams? Yeah so does just about every team in the league. They're 10-6.  They didn't need an interception to beat Dallas. They led the entire game. They needed to hold that lead. They did. Your counterpoint to my facts is that the Eagles didn't beat a divisional opponent convincingly enough?

My argument is that they played a weak schedule in a weak division, went 1-3 versus playoff teams (beat a Packers team that was missing Rodgers and Cobb), and with the talent they have should have gone 13-3 or even 14-2.   Wasted talent.

Big offense numbers don't translate to Lombardi trophies, taking advantage of opportunities does. The '11 Saints had over 7,400 yards total offense but didn't make it to the division game. The '78 Pats had over 3,000 yards rushing but were one and done. Both teams gave up lots of turnovers and left points on the field.

The Eagles are average among playoff teams in turnover differential and would be much worse were it not for the hapless Bears.   They're average in 3rd & 4th down conversions.   I just don't see many indications they have the goods to win the 4 consecutive games against stiff competition it'll take to hoist a trophy.

ClemofNazareth wrote: Equality 7-2521 wrote: That's a terrible argument which addresses none of the points I made. They lost to three non-playoff teams? Yeah so does just about every team in the league. They're 10-6.  They didn't need an interception to beat Dallas. They led the entire game. They needed to hold that lead. They did. Your counterpoint to my facts is that the Eagles didn't beat a divisional opponent convincingly enough? My argument is that they played a weak schedule in a weak division, went 1-3 versus playoff teams (beat a Packers team that was missing Rodgers and Cobb), and with the talent they have should have gone 13-3 or even 14-2.   Wasted talent. Big offense numbers don't translate to Lombardi trophies, taking advantage of opportunities does. The '11 Saints had over 7,400 yards total offense but didn't make it to the division game. The '78 Pats had over 3,000 yards rushing but were one and done. Both teams gave up lots of turnovers and left points on the field. The Eagles are average among playoff teams in turnover differential and would be much worse were it not for the hapless Bears.   They're average in 3rd & 4th down conversions.   I just don't see many indications they have the goods to win the 4 consecutive games against stiff competition it'll take to hoist a trophy.

The Eagles' strength of schedule was higher than: Broncos, Chargers, Chiefs, Colts

What talent is on the Eagles' roster? They were one of the worst teams in the league last year. The year before that they were 3-8 before winning meaningless slop games to even their record out. The team was terrible. It was a franchise worst defense and historically bad red zone defense. They're starting a second year Rd 3 QB. The defense transfered from a 4-3 wide nine to a 3-4 two gap system. Everything that you have said applies fivefold to the Chiefs, but you made no such comments.

The Eagles have committed five turnovers in their last 12 games. They do not give the ball away.

The Eagles are not average in turnover differential. They are tied for second in the league at +12.

The Packers needed a 4th and nine blown coverage touchdown to come back and beat the Bears in the final game. The Eagles dominated them. They held them, the second best offense in the league at the time, to 11 points.

Say that you don't think the Eagles will go far in the postseason. That's fine. I don't care. Don't say things that aren't true.

horsewithteeth11 wrote: Divisional: Panthers over Eagles (Carolina's D I think is the edge.) Seahawks over Packers (Unless they have to put up 30+, I don't see Seattle losing at home.) Patriots over Chiefs (Pats. Foxboro. Divisional Round. Enough said.) Bengals over Broncos (I might get laughed at for this one, but I could see both teams putting up 40 here. I have zero confidence in Denver's D, and I don't think they win a SB because of it. Von Miller was the only guy for them that I think worries other teams and he's out. I think which Dalton shows up here depends on who wins though.)

JJLehto wrote: It stands to reason and year long play that the playoffs will end like this: Seattle vs San Fran  or Seattle vs Saints Regardless: Seattle takes the NFC title Hawks really are the best team I think in the whole NFL and their rigged stadium (lol sorry no other way to put it) is a fortress. San Fran has their full arsenal AND are not limping in the playoffs but at full health. I see them as a mild darkhorse. Let's see what Kap really has.  The Saints are the obvious other choice but they do look off, if not anemic, on the road away from their fantasy dome and Brees has struggled more away from home this year than usual. With that I DO see a pretty solid chance Philly goes deep. Defense may not be great but certainly solid enough, plenty of weapons and Foles has had a glorious run. I see them as a legit sleeper.  That said, I say no one tops Seattle. Crushing defense. All 3 levels are STACKED with great players. They stuff the run, pass rush, cover, tackle. No D plays like them this year. Wilson and co are solid with enough skill to up their game beyond "manager" mode. I like this team.  AFC:  Denver vs Pats What else could it be? Dalton is inconsistent, I guess he can throw together an Eli/Rodgers/Flacco run. All he needs is a few good games. Intriguing, but not sold.  Nothing else impresses me. Indy? Meh. Chargers LOL they shouldn't even be in here. Chiefs, if they can return to soul crushing defense AND Alex Smith and co maintain their new spark who knows!  I hate Denver's defense, they are fairly poor and sans Von Miller but hey, they can get by and AFC is weak.  Denver takes the AFC for a Broncos/Seahawks SB Can't call a winner, but that'd be one f**kin epic game. Defense vs potent offense, the legend vs upcoming star

The Dark Elf wrote: Ding dong the Schwartz is dead, Pompous b*****d fell on his head -- Ding dong the pompous Schwartz is dead! He's gone where ex-Lion coaches go -- Below! Yo-ho -- third string -- No bling -- he didn't win an effing thing.   Ummm...yeah. So I am glad.

Also, Kevin Gilbride is retiring as the Giants OC. Jesus Christ, my year is made on day 2.