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genbanks

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Topic: Wish you were here Experience Ed
Posted: December 11 2013 at 09:49

Few years ago my sons give to me as a gift Wish you were here Experience Edition. My first thought was "well, I have this one, but now in a remastered version", but listening to the second CD...WOW! what a surprise. I wanna know your opinions about these rare live versions of Pink Floyd

Shine on you crazy diamond, Raving and Drooling and You've got to be crazy, the last two the seeds of Sheep and Dogs.

In my opinion those two versions are absolutely outstanding, specially You've got to be crazy, cause these superb guitar solos and this great vocalization.

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Posted: December 14 2013 at 14:38

genbanks wrote:

Few years ago my sons give to me as a gift Wish you were here Experience Edition. My first thought was "well, I have this one, but now in a remastered version", but listening to the second CD...WOW! what a surprise. I wanna know your opinions about these rare live versions of Pink Floyd

Shine on you crazy diamond, Raving and Drooling and You've got to be crazy, the last two the seeds of Sheep and Dogs.

In my opinion those two versions are absolutely outstanding, specially You've got to be crazy, cause these superb guitar solos and this great vocalization.

PF was doing "Raving and Drooling" and "You Got to be Crazy" on the DSOTM shows and it is on at least 100 bootlegs out there, and I think Roger got tired of me saying that for 40 years! This was the material that everyone thought would be the next album, that was ditched for something that sounded a bit more closely related to DSOTM so PF could take advantage of the business side of things. It's all over the COVER, and Welcome to the Machine, and Have a Cigar ... what else do you need to know?

The original "Raving and Drooling" was the best "space rock" piece ever done! Massive Gilmour and it was like ... hear this Mr. Barrett!

I don't dislike WYWH at all, but this stuff was much superior in my book to what eventually was done in "Animals" which I still do not enjoy as much as the originals!

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Posted: December 17 2013 at 13:15

moshkito wrote:

Shine on you crazy diamond, Raving and Drooling and You've got to be crazy, the last two the seeds of Sheep and Dogs.

In my opinion those two versions are absolutely outstanding, specially You've got to be crazy, cause these superb guitar solos and this great vocalization.

The original "Raving and Drooling" was the best "space rock" piece ever done! Massive Gilmour and it was like ... hear this Mr. Barrett!

I don't dislike WYWH at all, but this stuff was much superior in my book to what eventually was done in "Animals" which I still do not enjoy as much as the originals!

Well, thanks for your post, in fact I'm not much over the Floyd bootleg universe. I've heard once a bootleg called Animals Instincts but the sound is not good. So I didn't knew about what you are saying. Here the sound is perfect and as you say those versions are superb. What you mean with massive Gilmour?

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Posted: December 17 2013 at 20:46

I got this version of the album (as well as the Dark Side of the Moon one), and I do have been enjoying the live versions of the songs. As a matter of fact, between the live songs featured in both albums you get (almost) the whole concert (they were all taken from the same one). However, I still think they should rather have released that concert as a live album, including the encore, of course (which was Echoes if I got it right, and that one should just be available too). As for the other bonus tracks, I belive they would have fit on the CD at the end of the album poper. By the way, the bonus version of the "Wish you were Here" song is also really great.

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Posted: December 19 2013 at 01:05

genbanks wrote:

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Bootlegs, never had quality of sound, but if you did not know the difference between a performance and the recording, then you are not listening.

And, honestly, in those days too many people were too ripped to even know the difference!

For example, the whole series of bootlegs on Led Zeppelin in Los Angeles, up to and including "Bonzo's Birthday Party, and there about 6 titles of them comprising about 15 hours of music (some were the same thing redone, and you knew after the first 3 bars!), had performances that were out of this world, NON STOP and magnificent. You might not be a Led Z fan, but the continuity and quality was impressive and you would say ... wow, that's a tight band! The energy alone is worth the price and then some. From "Good evening. Nice to be back!" and kaboom on the bass and guitar non stop for 3 sides of the double LP, before you took a deep breath and went ... wow ... this is amazing!

Most LP's did not have any of this, and 5 years ago (or so) Jimmy put together "How the West was Won" from some of those, and took out some "mistakes" and added his fixes in them, and it has lost its soul! The originals were better.

The 3 bands whose bootlegs were amazing, were Grateful Dead, Pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin, because of the amount of surprises and what they did, which was not always a song that was on the album and various other material that never got to an album! These bands, are also more famous, in the early days, for their stage work, than they were for the albums! I can't speak for the Syd Barrett era, but the early Gilmour era was excellent. It's why I love to say that there are 15 versions of "Set the Controls for the Heart of the Sun" and they are each better than the other, just like there are 15 versions of "Atom Heart Mother" and they are all better than each other!

The way I see it, "Raving and Drooling" was the ultimate Dave Gilmour going out on a limb in the guitar and just flying all over it non-stop, which was not in the eventual version at all. The eventual one ("Sheep") was more group oriented and composition oriented. AND, it kinda followed the earlier words by Roger Waters that said that they played a lot of material early on to smooth it out and make it better until they knew how they wanted it, which is something that Pink Floyd LOST when their shows became mechanized and computerized with the Dark Side of the Moon stuff, and from that point on. But the first year, only half the show was that controlled, and the other things were still being fooled around with.

This is my experience with Pink Floyd since I have known them and been into them in 1970. I started just right after Syd was replaced, and believe it or not it was through the film "Zabriskie Point" that I got into PF!

Edited by moshkito - December 24 2013 at 10:22

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Posted: December 19 2013 at 01:09

Dellinger wrote:

I got this version of the album (as well as the Dark Side of the Moon one), and I do have been enjoying the live versions of the songs. As a matter of fact, between the live songs featured in both albums you get (almost) the whole concert (they were all taken from the same one). However, I still think they should rather have released that concert as a live album, including the encore, of course (which was Echoes if I got it right, and that one should just be available too). As for the other bonus tracks, I belive they would have fit on the CD at the end of the album poper. By the way, the bonus version of the "Wish you were Here" song is also really great.

The material that became "Animals" was no longer being played during "WYWH", and when I saw them. At that time, the 2nd part of the show was DSOTM and an encore of "One of These Days", or similar. As far as I can find/tell, it was only played during the earlier DSOTM tours which would have been the first year, possibly into the 2nd.

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