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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Toaster Mantis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 01 2013 at 04:44
Damo Suzuki's list of collaborators is truly astounding too, even including the guy who did that Chocolate Rain song.I think the only other musician with a more baffling list of partners in crime is David Tibet from Current 93, to the point I'm surprised him and Damo haven't collaborated.


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Pinguin : Der Grosse Rote Vogel (1972)  Not so bad.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dr wu23 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2014 at 11:39
Love both Amon Duul 2 and Agitation Free....today I'm grooving with AF ...inside of course... on a cold and windy day in Indiana. 12 inches of snow in the last 21/2 days and temp is 28 f and -2 overnight with a high of 0 tomorrow.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Guldbamsen Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 18 2014 at 05:15
Knowing your affinty for Amon Düül ll Tom, how are you with Älgarnas Trädgård? You mentioned Sweden before, and these cats are perhaps my best proof of a "Scandinavian Krautrock" sound. Throw in Kebnekaise's second and Archimedes Badkar ll or lll and I rest my case. Any of these should be right up your alley methinks. Älgarnas Trädgård's two albums though are essential if you're a psychedelic music fan.

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Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

Knowing your affinty for Amon Düül ll Tom, how are you with Älgarnas Trädgård? You mentioned Sweden before, and these cats are perhaps my best proof of a "Scandinavian Krautrock" sound. Throw in Kebnekaise's second and Archimedes Badkar ll or lll and I rest my case. Any of these should be right up your alley methinks. Älgarnas Trädgård's two albums though are essential if you're a psychedelic music fan.
OK - you got me. I've been looking for the first AT album for some time now (vinyl, rare-as-rocking-horse sh*t), and Kebnekajse too, but only got some recent Kebnekajse albums - I love one called 'Idioten' a lot, though it's more folky than Kraut. Some excellent jams on it though. We should move this discussion to the Krautrock Appreciation thread....
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Originally posted by Toaster Mantis Toaster Mantis wrote:

Will keep an eye open for both groups, then.




Nice one Simon.
I think you would appreciate the kind of thing I'm on about. I did a review stint a good while back, where I talked about this Nordic Krautrock sound. The bands I mentioned here are only a small part of it, but they showcase the style beautifully: you find this warped Nordic twist on folk alongside a willingness to partake in free associations. Throw some unhinged fusion, occasional flirts with electronics and an overpowering surge of psych into the mix, then you're almost there.
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Ok what were we on about? Erm Scandinavian Krautrock sound.
Erm yes that sounds preposterous, but there is some truth in that, although I highly suspect the bands in question would say otherwise.
One of the first examples of this sound is probably International Harvester's Sov Gott, Rose Marie, where the band, after having attended a Terry Riley gig, incorporated tonal electronic experiments together with a strange kind of "rock" setting.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Guldbamsen Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 18 2014 at 05:57
Maybe it's because I, mainly, associate genuine Krautrock with improv and that Kosmische vibe.
Krautrock to me has become an umbrella term for 'psychedelic avantguarde music of an improvising nature'.
I hear it in Djam Karet's 2013 'The Trip' as well, just like I know Pedro does.
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Still have a lot of time for Kraftwerk's debut album, up there with the best.
No one speaks of the band Jaki L played in after Can finished in the late-70's. Phatomband. Holger helped out on the first album, and Rosko Gee was bassist. The debut had Spacey Kraut elements, soul (!), electronic and funk. The last 2 albums had Sheldon Ancel on voice, kind of wacko and urgent in a Malcom Mooney sort of way. With spacey/punky elements. Worthwhile I say

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Amen to that.

Btw I moved some posts from the Febus thread in here;-)
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Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

Still have a lot of time for Kraftwerk's debut album, up there with the best.
No one speaks of the band Jaki L played in after Can finished in the late-70's. Phatomband. Holger helped out on the first album, and Rosko Gee was bassist. The debut had Spacey Kraut elements, soul (!), electronic and funk. The last 2 albums had Sheldon Ancel on voice, kind of wacko and urgent in a Malcom Mooney sort of way. With spacey/punky elements. Worthwhile I say


I've been asking about Jaki's musical endeavors post CAN before actually, this must be one of the few times I've seen any mention of them. Thanks man! Definitely noted:-)
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And there's a Karoli album I have, he plays all the instruments (!) and has Polly Eltes on vocals. The only time I know of Polly's work was on Eno's Taking Tiger Mountain album. Karoli's album is more Ska than Kraut.
Also have a Irmin Schmidt album, a bit hit and miss though, I don't listen to it often. He has a Bruno Spoerri helping out on synths and lyricon.
And of couse, a very cool album by Japanese vocalist Phew, backed by Jaki, Conrad Plank, and Holger. This is a fine post-punk, new-wave album, with Kraut elements.
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Also news to me:-)
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Do you know Prosper Tom? They made one album called 'Broken Door' and it is just stunning. Think Popol Vuh meets early Kraan and you're not that far off;-)
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^ Ok you've made me take out my Future Days copy and give it a fresh new spin right now, I always had a problem liking a Can album as a whole.
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Who knows, maybe this is the time you come around?:-P
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Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

Who knows, maybe this is the time you come around?:-P

It was very good actually, especially that 20 minute epic. I'll spin it tomorrow too Approve


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Originally posted by Sagichim Sagichim wrote:

Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

Who knows, maybe this is the time you come around?:-P

It was very good actually, especially that 20 minute epic. I'll spin it tomorrow too Approve

To be fair you are not supposed to listen to it in an altered state of consciousness......that's cheating.

 
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I've always had trouble getting into Can and I have been listening to them on and off for 40 years.
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Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

 
I've always had trouble getting into Can and I have been listening to them on and off for 40 years.
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Did you ever try this album?


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Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

 
I've always had trouble getting into Can and I have been listening to them on and off for 40 years.
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Did you ever try this album?


Yep...have it on vinyl.... for a long time.
That's the last one I bought years ago..., though I also have Can Unlimited on cd ;found it used.
 
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