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You're not saying anything. You're putting two antonyms next to each other. Infinitely finite is not a shape. 

EDIT: Oh you must be referring to the Picard horn. I was being a bit obtuse. For the future infinitely finite doesn't mean anything and doesn't describe what you're talking about. It's a possible model. It wouldn't be one that I rank high in probability though.

Further Edit: You can give a few good reasons that, although we can't rule out the Picard model and it would certainly explain some things, it's probably not the most likely manifold to consider. The big thing which we would have to throw out is the cosmological principle Of course you can argue it's not a principle at all merely a fancy term for our realization of our own ignorance, but it's an honored principle since Copernicus' work so it should make you uneasy unless the evidence really compels you to discard it.

Hopefully final edit so I can get back to this research proposal: To cut off anybody: Yes I'm aware that there was some rather profound cosmological discovery this year which seems to call the cosmological principle into question. I have not read much about it so I can't really comment.


Edited by Equality 7-2521 - November 26 2013 at 10:28

Equality 7-2521 wrote: EDIT: Oh you must be referring to the Picard horn. I was being a bit obtuse. For the future infinitely finite doesn't mean anything and doesn't describe what you're talking about. It's a possible model. It wouldn't be one that I rank high in probability though. Further Edit: You can give a few good reasons that, although we can't rule out the Picard model and it would certainly explain some things, it's probably not the most likely manifold to consider. The big thing which we would have to throw out is the cosmological principle Of course you can argue it's not a principle at all merely a fancy term for our realization of our own ignorance, but it's an honored principle since Copernicus' work so it should make you uneasy unless the evidence really compels you to discard it. Hopefully final edit so I can get back to this research proposal: To cut off anybody: Yes I'm aware that there was some rather profound cosmological discovery this year which seems to call the cosmological principle into question. I have not read much about it so I can't really comment.

I deciphered what he meant above.

EDIT: The consensus says it's finite. But the consensus isn't all that strong in this case, is relatively new, and is in a field which develops very rapidly so I'd be careful.


Edited by Equality 7-2521 - November 27 2013 at 07:44

dr wu23 wrote: Dean wrote: Love that digging a hole  emoticon......where is it linked to?

Equality 7-2521 wrote: Equality 7-2521 wrote: I deciphered what he meant above. EDIT: The consensus says it's finite. But the consensus isn't all that strong in this case, is relatively new, and is in a field which develops very rapidly so I'd be careful. A friend from across the quad in the physics department disagrees. He says consensus is for an infinite and flat universe. He's not in cosmology, but he certainly knows more than me so there.

That is correct, even though the word "consensus" is somewhat misleading in this case. Although current data and observations seem to corroborate the idea of a flat and infinite universe, they do not rule out the possibility of a finite universe. Nonetheless, given the rate at which our knowledge of the cosmos is advancing, it wouldn't be surprising if this "consensus" changed drastically in the next few years... The truth is that we've just barely begun to understand the physics of the universe, so there are still lots of questions and very few certainties

Equality 7-2521 wrote: I don't think that makes the idea of consensus misleading or inaccurate though.

You're rigth, I should have chosen the words more carefully
What I meant is that the consensus in this case is not as strong as other, more firmly established consensuses regarding more "stable" (well, at least inside the scientific community... ) subjects such as evolution or climate change

DreamReaper wrote: Equality 7-2521 wrote: Equality 7-2521 wrote: I deciphered what he meant above. EDIT: The consensus says it's finite. But the consensus isn't all that strong in this case, is relatively new, and is in a field which develops very rapidly so I'd be careful. A friend from across the quad in the physics department disagrees. He says consensus is for an infinite and flat universe. He's not in cosmology, but he certainly knows more than me so there. That is correct, even though the word "consensus" is somewhat misleading in this case. Although current data and observations seem to corroborate the idea of a flat and infinite universe, they do not rule out the possibility of a finite universe. Nonetheless, given the rate at which our knowledge of the cosmos is advancing, it wouldn't be surprising if this "consensus" changed drastically in the next few years... The truth is that we've just barely begun to understand the physics of the universe, so there are still lots of questions and very few certainties

I did not realize infinity was dependent on time??

Infinity can be measured in any dimension, distance is just one of them.