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someone_else
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Posted: October 26 2013 at 03:58 |
03/12/67 - The Velvet Underground & Nico
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The.Crimson.King
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Posted: October 26 2013 at 16:23 |
Svetonio wrote:
The day when Strawberry Fields/ Penny Lane was released is the day when Progressive Rock was born.
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octopus-4
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Posted: October 26 2013 at 16:44 |
The.Crimson.King wrote:
Svetonio wrote:
The day when Strawberry Fields/ Penny Lane was released is the day when Progressive Rock was born.
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Effectively it's a possible one.
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I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution
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BrufordFreak
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Posted: October 26 2013 at 20:44 |
July 25, 1965 the day Bob Dylan first played electric guitar in a live concert performance at the Newport Jazz Festival. Dylan and his musical stylings (and personal inspirations and causes, including marijuana and the burgeoning psychedelic drug scene) were at that time the English world's most influential and progressive rock was, as we all recognize, an "invention" of the English-conscious world (with the Anglophilic Dutch and Germans respectfully included herein).
That's one theory.
The other is that Progressive Rock was born with the popularization and legal use/experimentation of psychedelic drugs, especially LSD, around 1963-66. Aren't all of the above polled albums coming from a psychedelia-related, mind- and form-expanding consciousness/awareness? While not all early prog artists were psychedlic drug users, their music and topics of lyrical choice were most certainly affected by the drug, spiritual, or counter-cultural movements occurring all around them, nicht wahr?
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Man With Hat
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Posted: October 27 2013 at 01:09 |
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Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect.
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Svetonio
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Posted: October 27 2013 at 03:08 |
BrufordFreak wrote:
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The other is that Progressive Rock was born with the popularization and legal use/experimentation of psychedelic drugs, especially LSD, around 1963-66. Aren't all of the above polled albums coming from a psychedelia-related, mind- and form-expanding consciousness/awareness? While not all early prog artists were psychedlic drug users, their music and topics of lyrical choice were most certainly affected by the drug, spiritual, or counter-cultural movements occurring all around them, nicht wahr? |
I disagree. Well, everybody knows that prog came from psychedelia and the fact is that 99% of musicians at that time were smoking weed and swallowed trips, but that new proggy sound was "daydreaming" as well as "melancholy" rather than "mind" and "spiritual" & the states of consciousness inducted by THC or LSD. That caused the difference between early prog and psychedelia was very noticeable in sound and in the graphic design of the albums covers as well.
Edited by Svetonio - October 27 2013 at 06:07
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ProgMetaller2112
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Posted: October 30 2013 at 02:53 |
Prog was born when Humans decided to make music that was out of the box or rather imaginative. I'd say it started with the Classical composers such as Bach, Beethoven and Chopin. I mean the word "Prog" really didn't come about until the 20th century but Prog was born and has existed over hundreds of years ago
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Moogtron III
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Posted: October 30 2013 at 03:50 |
I'd say: the magnificent Pet Sounds
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Blacksword
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Posted: October 30 2013 at 04:17 |
There is an argument for all of these being the first prog album, but for me ITCOTCK is the first actual 'prog rock' album.
The rest I would say are proto, with the possible exception of The Moody Blues DOFP. I would respect the argument that this album was the first. I absolutely love it too; a concept album with orchestrations, continuous music, poetry, and some spacey sh*t on the side. You can't go wrong.
I chose ITCOTCK though, as it has a more 'rock' feel, and sounds closer to what prog actually evolved into.
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Xonty
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Posted: October 30 2013 at 04:53 |
All of these influenced the next stage's in prog, but King Crimson made the first actual prog rock album so it gets my vote!
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Michael678
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Posted: October 30 2013 at 05:43 |
Xonty wrote:
All of these influenced the next stage's in prog, but King Crimson made the first actual prog rock album so it gets my vote! |
same here!
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