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Prog_Traveller
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Posted: October 17 2013 at 15:45 |
Well I kind of hate to say it but I really don't think there are any newer bands in the prog rock genre that would be considered "household names." What I mean by that is if you went to any given local high school and asked the students what newer prog bands they know they would probably give you a blank stare and not know how to answer the question. Sure some are familiar with a few but not the majority. Most people do not know what prog is and out of those who do most would associate the genre with the seventies and only name seventies bands.
This only addresses the issue of popularity or name recognition. If we look at quality it's a different story but most of my favorite stuff and the stuff that has stood the test of time is the older classic stuff. There are some recent classics but I can't really think of many of the top of my head.
Edited by Prog_Traveller - October 17 2013 at 15:47
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Posted: October 17 2013 at 15:52 |
Radiohead and Muse would probably be the most likely modern bands to be known in a local high school...but how prog they are or aren't is another discussion.
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Posted: October 17 2013 at 15:54 |
Prog_Traveller wrote:
Well I kind of hate to say it but I really don't think there are any newer bands in the prog rock genre that would be considered "household names." What I mean by that is if you went to any given local high school and asked the students what newer prog bands they know they would probably give you a blank stare and not know how to answer the question. Sure some are familiar with a few but not the majority. Most people do not know what prog is and out of those who do most would associate the genre with the seventies and only name seventies bands.
This only addresses the issue of popularity or name recognition. If we look at quality it's a different story but most of my favorite stuff and the stuff that has stood the test of time is the older classic stuff. There are some recent classics but I can't really think of many of the top of my head.
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I can certainly agree that the popularity of progressive rock bands in the 1970s was unrivaled.
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Prog_Traveller
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Posted: October 17 2013 at 16:52 |
The modern bands most closely associated with prog such as The Flower Kings and Spock's Beard aren't that well known outside of prog circles. Porcupine Tree and Dream Theater are farily well known both in and out of prog circles but I think they have both been marketed outside of prog circles and have a fan base outside of prog(especially in metal)therefore many of their fans probably aren't even prog fans and I'm sure some of them don't even know what prog is.
So what does all this mean? Well I guess the bottom line is if prog doesn't have a large audience for current stuff then most bands are going to be influenced by the older bands and inevitably wind up sounding like them. It's not like this entirely but it was especially like this in the 80's and 90's where the only real reference for newer bands was the older bands. Some of the newer(or at least post seventies) bands like IQ, Riverside, Porcupine Tree, Marillion, Dream Theater, Mars Volta, Radiohead(if you can count them), Flower Kings, Pendragon, Phideaux, Glass Hammer, Spock's Beard, Opeth and Dream Theater etc are well known enough to influence newer prog bands.
Edited by Prog_Traveller - October 17 2013 at 16:57
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dr prog
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Posted: October 17 2013 at 16:56 |
Modern prog lacks melody, character and authenticity. You'd have to be young and lost or just old and confused to prefer modern over old
Edited by dr prog - October 18 2013 at 19:25
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All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.
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timothy leary
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Posted: October 17 2013 at 17:09 |
baloney^
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Posted: October 17 2013 at 18:42 |
No doubt or any question in my mind...I adore and love it all. From 1968 to 2013 I've been able to find and appreciate sounds of each era that have greatly agreed with me. Ergo, there is no lessor of 2 evils for me in this equation.
Both classic and modern Prog are terrific. Remember, a progheads variety is a for a progheads sanity.
Obviously, their are certain era's I favor more than others, but If someone were to ask me what Prog generation should I explore? I'd say....all of it!! From The Beattles and Crimson to Haken, Knight Area and Animals as Leaders.
I feel it's all important, relevant stuff. :)
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Gimmie my headphones now!!! 🎧🤣
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timothy leary
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Posted: October 17 2013 at 18:52 |
Exactly^ why limit yourself?
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Posted: October 17 2013 at 19:05 |
^ the exploration and contrast is unbelievable. I love it. I'll through on an Asia Minor album, then after our on some My Dying Bride and jump into Haken's The Mountain. It's beautiful and each era has its own unique qualities, especially with the use of Technology. ;)
Never would I dare limit myself. You are spot on Mr. Leary. ;)
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Posted: October 17 2013 at 19:50 |
dr prog wrote:
Modern prog lacks melody, character and authenticity. |
Wrong, wrong, and wrong.
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Horizons
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Posted: October 17 2013 at 20:01 |
Padraic wrote:
dr prog wrote:
Modern prog lacks melody, character and authenticity. |
Wrong, wrong, and wrong. |
He trolls and says the same thing every chance he can get.
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Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.
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Aussie-Byrd-Brother
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Posted: October 17 2013 at 20:16 |
dr prog wrote:
Modern prog lacks melody, character and authenticity. |
Dude, you miss out on so much amazing progressive music by outright dismissing modern stuff altogether.
So many inventive and exciting bands working in a variety of progressive genres to discover!
Don't simply hang on to a few albums from a small period of time and miss everything else.
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progbethyname
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Posted: October 17 2013 at 21:26 |
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Posted: October 17 2013 at 21:33 |
*facepalm*
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Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.
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Posted: October 18 2013 at 00:47 |
As much as I love and adore modern prog with bands like Taal, Sky Architect, Tool, Dreadnaught, 5uu's, Gevende, Orphaned Land, Estradasphere and even consider them to be my favorite bands ever, the style of prog I feel most connected with is 70's prog no doubt about it. I'm really not talking about the classics everyone knows, the gold didn't float only on the surface, it pentrated very deeply inside and spreaded to almost every country. There's something about the 70's that easily captivates me, the sound, the ideas and even in the playing (maybe you could sum it up with one word...Drugs! )
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Neo-Romantic
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Posted: October 18 2013 at 01:04 |
Ageism in the prog community is the very antithesis of what prog represents. The word "prog" should imply "progress". How can music move forward if we keep looking backward as though we've already left behind our potential to create new masterpieces? That, my friends, is regressive, not progressive. Don't throw away the classics by any means, but don't put them on an inflated pedestal. You miss out on the amazing things going on in today's music scene. And there is some truly amazing stuff going on today. Some of it better than the classic stuff by miles in my opinion. After stating that observation that I hope was communicated as a humble thought, I'm going to start a fight by interjecting my opinion of such examples, because that's the proper social convention for posting on the internet. The new Haken album, Riverside's last two, the new Anglagard album, and Discipline's most recent album are examples that have come out within the past 5 years that I like better than the ENTIRE YES DISCOGRAPHY. There, I said it. Not trolling either. And I'm not sorry. Commence bashing
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Posted: October 18 2013 at 01:10 |
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The Mystical
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Posted: October 18 2013 at 03:38 |
I personally don't choose music by its era. Each era contains music that I like and music that I don't like (though I tend to like any music if I give it a good chance), even if there are some periods of music that contain lots of my favourite music.
Much of my favourite music comes from the years:
1972
1973
1978
1980
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I am currently digging:
Hawkwind, Rare Bird, Gong, Tangerine Dream, Khan, Iron Butterfly, and all things canterbury and hard-psych. I also love jazz!
Please drop me a message with album suggestions.
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Posted: October 18 2013 at 07:04 |
Neo-Romantic wrote:
Ageism in the prog community is the very antithesis of what prog represents. The word "prog" should imply "progress". How can music move forward if we keep looking backward as though we've already left behind our potential to create new masterpieces? That, my friends, is regressive, not progressive. |
Edited by Svetonio - October 18 2013 at 07:08
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dr prog
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Posted: October 18 2013 at 07:22 |
Horizons wrote:
Padraic wrote:
dr prog wrote:
Modern prog lacks melody, character and authenticity. |
Wrong, wrong, and wrong. |
He trolls and says the same thing every chance he can get. |
If it was quality I'd be rating it. It's plastic unmelodic poo
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All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.
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