Most inaccessible Prog?

progbethyname wrote:   Jazz. The epitome of musical masturbation. You can count me out for a cup of 'Bitches Brew' by Miles Davis. I respect his work, but I just can't get into it. It's frustrating.

Greg W wrote: Silly unproductive thread.

I find the diversity of our various prog likes and dislikes interesting but not surprising. One man's gold is another man's trash syndrome.

Take away their electric guitars, mellotrons and hammond organs, then it would sound more natural, take away their electricity then it wouldn't sound fake, get everyone off their arses and down to the concert hall.. that helps. Listeners might actually listen to another (? another what?) ... rather than trolling.

I don't care for Metal or anything that emphasizes technical skill over everything else, like Dream Theater. I'm bored by speed and accuracy. Also most noise-rock or Industrial like Merzbow and (fill-in-the-blank). I'm also rather bored by most Post-Rock, like Godspeed you! Black Emperor. I'm annoyed by the awkward punctuation and word phrasing for the sake of it. I love it's declared origins, such as Talk Talk, but where it went I find boring. So much of the visual aspect is deliberately obtuse as well, kind of like skateboard art.

Seems like all Prog is inaccessible......according to this thread.

rogerthat wrote: progbethyname wrote:  Jazz. The epitome of musical masturbation. You can count me out for a cup of 'Bitches Brew' by Miles Davis. I respect his work, but I just can't get into it. It's frustrating. Jazz is hardly just 'one thing', you know...it's an ocean.  More 'structured' jazz like Dave Brubeck's Quartet (and specifically the album Time Out) might just click for you.

I know that....the whole spectrum or concept of 'Music' is a gigantic ocean, but the Jazz sound like what Thelonious Monk and Miles Davis do on an extremely technical level gets a little too cramed and cacophany sounding. Brass instruments just schreeching away just doesn't do it for me, but I can understand the beauty and flow that some people may have for that kind of sound. I think the most i can take is King Crimson's 21st century schizoid where near the end of the song it's a full blown techy rock/jazz blow out! Lol. Very fast indeed. The limits of my taste if you will.

For me Univers Zero and RIO in general. It's why I never really got into them or the genre as a whole. Thinking Plague is another band that comes to mind. I'm sure they are talented but so far I just haven't really gotten into that stuff.

Can't remember seeing any RIO bands scheduled to play at the Keswick but I'll take your word for it. 

Guldbamsen wrote: Inaccessible prog? Why not take a stab at Igor Wakhevitch? Now I am pretty into the weird stuff - the out-there sh*t that really makes your head spin.....but when I came across this French dude, I understood nothing. I felt like I was listening to a strange mix of TD's Zeit and Henry Cow from the other end of a telephone. It took me two years to get into, but now I am completely hooked though. As far as inaccessible goes - Igor is up there with the best of them. This piece fx is actually one of his most accessible:

Actually. This sounds great to my ears, but then again I'm the wrong guy to talk to about what is inaccessible or accessible because music like this is my accessible baby. ;)

Great track Dave and I will look into this artist more deeply. This particular track reminds me a bit of what Elliot Goldenthal did with the ALIEN 3 movie score, and a bit of CURRENT 93's dark, moody atmosphere textures that they are so well known for. :)

Cool track....and yes completely non accessible for most I would imagine. Lol