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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 14 2013 at 20:51
I always considered them more of a great singles band than an album band to be honest. Some of their B-sides were quite good actually, especially the great "Jumpin' Jack Flash" B-side "Child of the Moon". Pretty much at the very tail end of their psychedelic era, it's a cool compliment to the classic A-side, a single which introduced a grittier sound while still bearing some trippiness.

I do like a couple of their albums, basically Beggars Banquet & Let It Bleed, although there are certainly gems on their other full-lengths. I prefer the US version of Aftermath thanks to the addition of "Paint It Black", although I wish they kept "Mother's Little Helper" in there too. Same with Between The Buttons regarding the US release...more entertaining with a couple of big hits thrown in.

I've never actually listened to much of Exile On Main Street, which many critics seem to adore these days but wasn't highly received upon release. I need to spend time with it someday.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 14 2013 at 23:03
Originally posted by Prog Sothoth Prog Sothoth wrote:

I always considered them more of a great singles band than an album band to be honest. Some of their B-sides were quite good actually, especially the great "Jumpin' Jack Flash" B-side "Child of the Moon". Pretty much at the very tail end of their psychedelic era, it's a cool compliment to the classic A-side, a single which introduced a grittier sound while still bearing some trippiness.

I do like a couple of their albums, basically Beggars Banquet & Let It Bleed, although there are certainly gems on their other full-lengths. I prefer the US version of Aftermath thanks to the addition of "Paint It Black", although I wish they kept "Mother's Little Helper" in there too. Same with Between The Buttons regarding the US release...more entertaining with a couple of big hits thrown in.

I've never actually listened to much of Exile On Main Street, which many critics seem to adore these days but wasn't highly received upon release. I need to spend time with it someday.
Beggars and Let It Bleed are 2 of the best things  they ever did and should be in every serious rock  collection .
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 16 2013 at 06:45
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
My favourite The Stones' ballads.
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 16 2013 at 08:34

I lived on a heavy diet of Stones music as a kid, went thru phases of listening to their different incarnations, but now when I put the Stones on, which isn't very often, I turn to Aftermath, Goat's Head and Black and Blue more often than not....transitional stuff that shows them working harder than usual, if not as sucessfully on the charts. 

I've worn out copies of albums like Exile, Bleed, Banquet, etc.  Now I like to settle in with albums that dig deeper.....and I don't overlook Emotional Rescue.  Some saw it as a revisiting of the smash Some Girls, but I think it's their last relevant album in that they really succeeded in putting down two sides full of music that was popular at the time.  No retro, sitting on their laurels stuff.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 16 2013 at 10:15
Originally posted by Intruder Intruder wrote:

I lived on a heavy diet of Stones music as a kid, went thru phases of listening to their different incarnations, but now when I put the Stones on, which isn't very often, I turn to Aftermath, Goat's Head and Black and Blue more often than not....transitional stuff that shows them working harder than usual, if not as sucessfully on the charts. 

I've worn out copies of albums like Exile, Bleed, Banquet, etc.  Now I like to settle in with albums that dig deeper.....and I don't overlook Emotional Rescue.  Some saw it as a revisiting of the smash Some Girls, but I think it's their last relevant album in that they really succeeded in putting down two sides full of music that was popular at the time.  No retro, sitting on their laurels stuff.
I bought their early singles on 45 along with the Beatles, Kinks, Dave Clark 5, etc.....so I go back to the beginning with the Stones. But I think their best work were the early years from 64-75.....after that they seemed to wander into the disco/soul /funk area which never really interested me. There were certainly some good tracks on those lp's you mentioned but it seemed to me that Jagger was trying to reach an even larger audience and wasn't playing what they were best at. The sig tune It's Only Rock and Roll summed up who they were imho and was their last 'great' lp.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 16 2013 at 12:20
Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Originally posted by Intruder Intruder wrote:

I lived on a heavy diet of Stones music as a kid, went thru phases of listening to their different incarnations, but now when I put the Stones on, which isn't very often, I turn to Aftermath, Goat's Head and Black and Blue more often than not....transitional stuff that shows them working harder than usual, if not as sucessfully on the charts. 

I've worn out copies of albums like Exile, Bleed, Banquet, etc.  Now I like to settle in with albums that dig deeper.....and I don't overlook Emotional Rescue.  Some saw it as a revisiting of the smash Some Girls, but I think it's their last relevant album in that they really succeeded in putting down two sides full of music that was popular at the time.  No retro, sitting on their laurels stuff.
I bought their early singles on 45 along with the Beatles, Kinks, Dave Clark 5, etc.....so I go back to the beginning with the Stones. But I think their best work were the early years from 64-75.....after that they seemed to wander into the disco/soul /funk area which never really interested me. There were certainly some good tracks on those lp's you mentioned but it seemed to me that Jagger was trying to reach an even larger audience and wasn't playing what they were best at. The sig tune It's Only Rock and Roll summed up who they were imho and was their last 'great' lp.

I got the 50 yr anniversary box "GRRR" last year and I love that most of the collection is geared to the '64 to '75 songs.  Definitely their best work before Keith's serious drug problems and Mick's emergence as the darling of the jet set watered down their musical punch.  There's still some great songs in the post '75 era but they're few and far between.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 16 2013 at 12:53
Angie is my favorite stones track.

Its simple but i love that song.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 16 2013 at 14:23

Stones' best stuff was absolutely from the beginning until Exile....but I played that stuff 'til I wore holes in the records.  I really dug Stripped when it came out 'cause it showed them looking back without, as you said, reaching for that extra buck.  I personally can't stand them now....$500 tickets, overly promoted shyte albums ("their best since....well, the last one!"), personalities more than musicians (let's see if we can kick Richards off the wagon). 

I get where you're coming from dr. wu, but I still love the Stones....but I wouldn't give a fag end to see them today.  I went thru an early singles kick a few years back....great ride.  Hungry, tight band with a ton of attitude...and taste.  Now I'm on a Goat's Head and Black and Blue kick....can't wait until I get into a Mick Taylor era phase again, but I don't think it'll be for a while.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 16 2013 at 14:37
My fave has always been Get Yer Ya Ya's Out. Mick Taylor is in top form on that - and so is Charlie. I've seen him catch a lot of flack, but I think he was the perfect drummer for The Stones. On this live release he shows why.
I may have to get it on vinyl one of these days. Just feels like a record that needs to be played on the turntableCool

Fave Stones song today would be Stray Cat Blues.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 16 2013 at 16:17
Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

My fave has always been Get Yer Ya Ya's Out. Mick Taylor is in top form on that - and so is Charlie. I've seen him catch a lot of flack, but I think he was the perfect drummer for The Stones. On this live release he shows why.
I may have to get it on vinyl one of these days. Just feels like a record that needs to be played on the turntableCool

Fave Stones song today would be Stray Cat Blues.
My roommate in college was a guitar player (he had a 1970 gold top Les Paul)  and literally wore out my copy of Get Yer Ya Ya's Out trying to learn all the licks. Sadly I can't play mine on the turntable anymore since it's so worn...I still play my cd copy though.
Stray Cat Blues  has always been one of my favorite lesser known Stones songs.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 16 2013 at 19:24
Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

My fave has always been Get Yer Ya Ya's Out. Mick Taylor is in top form on that - and so is Charlie. I've seen him catch a lot of flack, but I think he was the perfect drummer for The Stones. On this live release he shows why.
I may have to get it on vinyl one of these days. Just feels like a record that needs to be played on the turntableCool

Fave Stones song today would be Stray Cat Blues.

Brilliant!  I love the slowed down version of Stray Cat Blues on Ya Ya's...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 16 2013 at 21:26
Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Beggars and Let It Bleed are 2 of the best things  they ever did and should be in every serious rock  collection .
 
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Yeah, but even they aren't perfect to me. Beggars has maybe one or two twangy folk tunes too many...another rocker instead of "Dear Doctor" would have made it perfect, and As For Let It Bleed, I can't listen to "country Honk" without wanting to hear the superior "Honky Tonk Woman". Other than that, yeah, great stuff, borderline nasty in a good way at times.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 17 2013 at 02:37
Not certain here, but I recall reading something along the lines that for many of the later 60's/early 70's recordings, Bill Wyman played a bass where he removed the frets himself, making him one of the first to play a fretless electric bass ???
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 17 2013 at 15:58
Originally posted by Prog Sothoth Prog Sothoth wrote:

Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Beggars and Let It Bleed are 2 of the best things  they ever did and should be in every serious rock  collection .
 
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Yeah, but even they aren't perfect to me. Beggars has maybe one or two twangy folk tunes too many...another rocker instead of "Dear Doctor" would have made it perfect, and As For Let It Bleed, I can't listen to "country Honk" without wanting to hear the superior "Honky Tonk Woman". Other than that, yeah, great stuff, borderline nasty in a good way at times.
I agree that Beggars could have used one more rocker and one less 'twangy blues' song.
And I always wondered why they put Country Honk and not the other version on LIB...perhaps it wasn't reworked at that time.
To me Exiles is basically a reworking of the blues rock on those 2 lp's. It has those 'twangy blues/soul'  songs
 with some classic rockers. Almost the same format as the 2 earlier lp's.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2013 at 12:31
Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

To me Exiles is basically a reworking of the blues rock on those 2 lp's. It has those 'twangy blues/soul'  songs
 with some classic rockers. Almost the same format as the 2 earlier lp's.
I can live with that.
 
Since this thread popped up, I've been revisiting some of the old Stones records, particularly the interesting era of Between The Buttons and Their Satanic Majesties Request., with the weird single "We Love You" inbetween.
 
The former album is really odd for the band, very brit-pop stuff...a real mixed bag but "She Smiled Sweetly" is quite the pretty number. Prefer the US version of the album. "Let's Spend The Night Together" is euphoric and "Ruby Tuesday" is great too, although a little sloppier than I remembered, but the UK version has "Back Street Girl" which is nice as well if not at the same level. "Communication" was another decent number.
 
Their Satanic Majesties Request is even odder. Some of these tunes like "The Lantern" could have been pretty good slow-burn bluesy folk-rock tunes if the terrible production and deliberate 'weirdness' thrown in were omitted. "She's A Rainbow" is awesome though...a perfect mix of the brit-pop they were aiming for on the last album with the psychodelic stuff of this album. "2000 Light Years From Home" is the most pure 'Stonesy' sounding song they had done IMO since Aftermath, even with all the trippiness. There's a mean and creepy groove underneath all that. "Citadel" is also killer acid rock. Everything else on it is either just passable to terrible experimentation.
 
Then they sort of found themselves after that, with "Child Of The Moon" being their last psychedelic-like number.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2013 at 12:43
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Since this thread popped up, I've been revisiting some of the old Stones records, particularly the interesting era of Between The Buttons and Their Satanic Majesties Request., with the weird single "We Love You" inbetween.
 
The former album is really odd for the band, very brit-pop stuff...a real mixed bag but "She Smiled Sweetly" is quite the pretty number. Prefer the US version of the album. "Let's Spend The Night Together" is euphoric and "Ruby Tuesday" is great too, although a little sloppier than I remembered, but the UK version has "Back Street Girl" which is nice as well if not at the same level. "Communication" was another decent number.
 
Their Satanic Majesties Request is even odder. Some of these tunes like "The Lantern" could have been pretty good slow-burn bluesy folk-rock tunes if the terrible production and deliberate 'weirdness' thrown in were omitted. "She's A Rainbow" is awesome though...a perfect mix of the brit-pop they were aiming for on the last album with the psychodelic stuff of this album. "2000 Light Years From Home" is the most pure 'Stonesy' sounding song they had done IMO since Aftermath, even with all the trippiness. There's a mean and creepy groove underneath all that. "Citadel" is also killer acid rock. Everything else on it is either just passable to terrible experimentation.
 
Then they sort of found themselves after that, with "Child Of The Moon" being their last psychedelic-like number.

I really love both these albums...I've read that Satanic was Mick's idea to jump on the Sgt Pepper bandwagon 'cause he thought they'd miss the boat.  Keith and Brian both absolutely hated it and were incredibly happy when the band got back to their nasty blues-rock roots with Beggars Banquet.  Another great song released at that time is the B-side to "We Love You"..."Dandelion" Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2013 at 12:51
Originally posted by Prog Sothoth Prog Sothoth wrote:

Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

To me Exiles is basically a reworking of the blues rock on those 2 lp's. It has those 'twangy blues/soul'  songs
 with some classic rockers. Almost the same format as the 2 earlier lp's.
I can live with that.
 
Since this thread popped up, I've been revisiting some of the old Stones records, particularly the interesting era of Between The Buttons and Their Satanic Majesties Request., with the weird single "We Love You" inbetween.
 
The former album is really odd for the band, very brit-pop stuff...a real mixed bag but "She Smiled Sweetly" is quite the pretty number. Prefer the US version of the album. "Let's Spend The Night Together" is euphoric and "Ruby Tuesday" is great too, although a little sloppier than I remembered, but the UK version has "Back Street Girl" which is nice as well if not at the same level. "Communication" was another decent number.
 
Their Satanic Majesties Request is even odder. Some of these tunes like "The Lantern" could have been pretty good slow-burn bluesy folk-rock tunes if the terrible production and deliberate 'weirdness' thrown in were omitted. "She's A Rainbow" is awesome though...a perfect mix of the brit-pop they were aiming for on the last album with the psychodelic stuff of this album. "2000 Light Years From Home" is the most pure 'Stonesy' sounding song they had done IMO since Aftermath, even with all the trippiness. There's a mean and creepy groove underneath all that. "Citadel" is also killer acid rock. Everything else on it is either just passable to terrible experimentation.
 
Then they sort of found themselves after that, with "Child Of The Moon" being their last psychedelic-like number.
 
I always liked Between The Buttons....and to me Satanic Majesties was the Stones 'darker' version/answer to Sgt Pepper.
I've read that We Love You was the Stones commenting on their early drug bust/and the attending hoopla  and I think Lennon is even on that track somewhere.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2013 at 12:53
Their appeal died with Brian Jones.  Sticky Fingers was great, I think Exiles is a complete snooze-fest.  I don't mind some of their faux-punk attempts like Shattered, but I just don't care about really anything they did after the early 70s.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2013 at 13:36
Originally posted by The.Crimson.King The.Crimson.King wrote:

Another great song released at that time is the B-side to "We Love You"..."Dandelion" Wink
Yeah, I dig "Dandelion" a lot. Funny how it's pure catchy trippy-pop yet played in that loose bordeline sloppy Stones manner, giving the tune an almost sinister undercurrent. Then again, even when trying to sound sincere, Mick always had a bit of 'sneer' to his voice.
 
They were no slouches when it came to B-sides. Was "Let's Spend The Night Together" or "Ruby Tuesday" the initial B-side...or was it a planned double A-side maybe? And as I mentioned earlier, I think "Child Of The Moon" was a great B-side to "Jumpin' Jack Flash".
 
Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

I've read that We Love You was the Stones commenting on their early drug bust/and the attending hoopla  and I think Lennon is even on that track somewhere.
 
Yeah, and I think he's also in TSMR's "Sing This All Together", one of those tunes that probably was a lot more fun to make than listen to after the drugs wore off, it's ok I guess (better than "Gomper").


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2013 at 15:42
Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Their appeal died with Brian Jones.  Sticky Fingers was great, I think Exiles is a complete snooze-fest.  I don't mind some of their faux-punk attempts like Shattered, but I just don't care about really anything they did after the early 70s.
I know how you feel.....but I think Goat's Head and It's Only Rock n Roll are solid lp's. After that I don't own any Stones.
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