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    Posted: August 30 2013 at 16:12
I’m not sure where this topic belongs … The point is that I’m listening to an impossible concert right now. From our balcony, we can hear Pepper Jam to the left at restaurant Bonito. They play pop/rock/blues/soul, mostly from the 60s and 70s. To the right, from the officers’ club, we hear a Greek band playing well-known Greek songs from the 40’s and 50’s. They can’t hear each other, but we can hear both bands equally well. The result is a strange kind of bitonal, bilingual and polyrythmic music that would never have occured if the musicians were able to hear each other. My favourite so far was an upbeat tune by Pepper Jam mixed with a heavy, slow zeibekiko. In another song both bands used accordion – in different keys, of course. Absolutely wonderful. I wish you were here to hear it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 30 2013 at 16:39
Cool - sounds like unintentional Xenochrony
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 30 2013 at 18:46
Quick, quick, record this jam!

It reminds the following situation: spending a few weeks in a youth hostel, I was annoyed by a guy who used to blast his rap music (worse: FRENCH RAP!).
Then, a challenger appeared: a young guy blasting raï (popular music from Algeria), in order to make the first guy understand that he wasn't alone on earth.
The collapsing sound was... interesting.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2013 at 00:09
Reminds me of Captain Beefheart recording many of the vocals for Trout Mask Replica, he instructed the producer (Frank Zappa) to not let him hear the backing tracks he was singing to Wacko
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2013 at 00:13
sounds great, and pass that thing over here
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2013 at 11:51
It's easy to replicate too. 
Open two Youtube pages at once, and play two different things at the same time. 

Or three, or five, or ten Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2013 at 14:09
Yeah, but it's funnier when it's a live event that you didn't plan and organize.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2013 at 15:08
Originally posted by Stool Man Stool Man wrote:

It's easy to replicate too.
Open two Youtube pages at once, and play two different things at the same time.

Or three, or five, or ten Wink
But make sure those different things aren't just different Nickelback songs. That will have no effect.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2013 at 16:05
Interesting. I got something similar some years ago by listening to two MP3 streams at the same time in two different browser sessions (unintentionally). The result sounded very psychedelic in a beautiful way. Sadly, from only one of the songs I remember the title.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 01 2013 at 09:21
@Stegor: Good thinking. It’s indeed a kind of xeonochrony.
@Atavachron: No problem. If you come to Rhodes, I would gladly pour you an ouzo or three.

Using YouTube, I haven’t been able to reproduce the same effect, not only because I don’t know exactly what songs the bands played, but also because I mainly heard the voices (two female and one male) and the acoustic guitar of Pepper Jam, and the bass, drums and bouzouki of the other band. Still, mixing Fleetwood Mac and Kazantzidis wasn’t half bad (both these songs were played on Friday, but not simultaneously). Let FM finish their first line ("Loving you isn’t the right thing to do") before you start the Greek song:




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 01 2013 at 09:34
Originally posted by refugee refugee wrote:

I’m not sure where this topic belongs … The point is that I’m listening to an impossible concert right now. From our balcony, we can hear Pepper Jam to the left at restaurant Bonito. They play pop/rock/blues/soul, mostly from the 60s and 70s. To the right, from the officers’ club, we hear a Greek band playing well-known Greek songs from the 40’s and 50’s. They can’t hear each other, but we can hear both bands equally well. The result is a strange kind of bitonal, bilingual and polyrythmic music that would never have occured if the musicians were able to hear each other. My favourite so far was an upbeat tune by Pepper Jam mixed with a heavy, slow zeibekiko. In another song both bands used accordion – in different keys, of course. Absolutely wonderful. I wish you were here to hear it.

I didn't see this until now Espen.

Man I'm jealous of you. I'd give my right arm to be down there with you and Eva - chilling by the bar in Bonitos. I wish I could've heard the 'impossible music' too. Damn it sounds completely wild - and yet highly alluring to these earsBig smile I wonder what it would've sounded like that night with the bouzuoki! 
Anyway, I've tried this a couple of times myself. Most notably at music festivals. The Roskilde festival for instance is so huge with all of it's different stages, that it's impossible not to experience this at some point. I remember one time, where we initially went to see Marilyn Manson play at the far end of the festival, and then halfway through it leaving to go see.....yeah well I forget - I wasn't exactly sober that night, but we ended up in between MM and this ethnic sounding electronic artistLOL It sounded so perplexing that we decided to make camp right there on the grass, where we sat for a good hour with our warm white wine and space tobacco. Fun times.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 01 2013 at 10:18
as an ex trance dj i know how to mix impossible music. Filter and flanger effects are are fun to play with. Also yes i have had wierd experiences at Roskilde, i remember Reaggea colliieding with Kasabian and sounded awesome.
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