Was prog actually popular in the 70s?? |
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Michael678
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Posted: August 05 2013 at 10:07 | |||
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Evolver
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Posted: August 05 2013 at 14:26 | |||
As I remember it, Genesis was, at least in my area, slightly behind groups like ELP, Yes, Jethro Tull and Pink Floyd in the early seventies. But more popular than VDGG, Gentle Giant, and most other favorites. YMMV |
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The.Crimson.King
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Posted: August 05 2013 at 15:27 | |||
Definitely true for my area too. In 1977 the ELP "Works" tour, Yes "Going for the One" tour & Tull "Songs From the Wood" tour played to 19,000 at the indoor Oakland Arena (Yes actually sold out 2 nights). Pink Floyd was the biggest of all though and the "Animals" tour sold out the 56,000 seat outdoor Oakland Coliseum. On the other hand, the 1977 Genesis "Wind and Wuthering" tour was at the 5,400 capacity Winterland Ballroom across the bay in SF. Genesis didn't turn the corner and get to Oakland until the following year's "And Then There Were Three" tour. As far as rock radio at the time, I don't recall ever hearing Genesis being played a single time in regular rotation. ELP's "Lucky Man" and "In the Beginning" along with Yes' "Roundabout" and Tull's "Living in the Past", "Bungle in the Jungle", "Aqualung" & "Cross Eyed Mary" were all rock radio staples. Pink Floyd was already hugely popular with 'Money" and "Wish You Were Here" but when Animals came out, they just exploded on local radio..."Sheep" was played constantly.
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Rando
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Posted: August 05 2013 at 15:29 | |||
[/QUOTE] Ya, there were also these great independently owned record shops that catered to prog. Greg Stone either owned - or worked at - one in downtown Los Gatos called "The Galactic Zoo" (where I bought "Pawn Hearts"). In West San Jose you had "The Dedicated Record Collector". Downtown near San Jose State University was "Underground Records" (where I bought all my King Crimson bootlegs). And in Sunnyvale near my house was "Phonograph Records". I rode my 10 speed down one early September Saturday in 1977 and told the guy behind the counter I'd seen some really cool album covers from some band called King Crimson, and asked if he could tell me anything about them. He get's this evil smile and says, "I'll put something on so you can hear them for yourself" He then dropped the needle on Fracture and changed my life [/QUOTE]
Wow! This is crazy! In '94 I moved to San Jose and taught HS there in Campbell steps away from Los Gatos. I lived off Blossom Hill Rd. Sad to say but by the time I moved there it was a little too late to catch The Galactic Zoo and most of those other stores. All I could do was sit there and listen to great stories from friends about the late 70's and how these record stores had the best Prog. By mid-90's the only stores left for me were Streetlight Records, Big Al's Record Barn, and Rasputin, all on Bascom Ave. Well, there was one other one, Rowes Rare Records which was ok. Maybe we crossed paths at some point! Even if it was the mid-90's when I got there! |
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Dean
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Posted: August 05 2013 at 15:33 | |||
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dr prog
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Posted: August 05 2013 at 15:57 | |||
They became big in the horrible mid 80s lol |
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All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.
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Evolver
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Posted: August 05 2013 at 15:58 | |||
Yes was close here. I saw them in sold out arenas in Boston and New York more than a few times. |
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Dean
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Posted: August 05 2013 at 16:01 | |||
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The.Crimson.King
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Posted: August 05 2013 at 16:23 | |||
We probably did cross paths! I built up my prog CD collection in a big way in the mid 90's Streetlight was great in their early days when they were located in that house on Bascom by 280. They had a guy there named "Stretch" who was a Hawkwind and prog maniac so they always had cool stuff...bought the first 2 IQ albums there. When they expanded into that huge space down the street and opened up a sister store in Santa Cruz they dropped off on the prog focus. Rasputin was great and had a massive inventory. You could wander the aisles for days and not see everything. Big Al's was a complete vinyl rip off...he priced everything like it was a super rare collectors item no matter how many he had. I remember seeing 10+ vinyl ELP Works Vol 1 albums listed at $20+ for each one. I believe Rowe's on Bascom actually merged with Big Al after he shut down the Santa Clara store. The best prog store in the CD era was "CD Warehouse" in Sunnyvale. They had a listening station with like 10 CD players/headphone setups...I used to spend hours listening to anything that looked remotely interesting. They had a great prog section where I bought most of my Ange & Anekdoten albums...ya, they went deep into the Italian, French, Swedish, and German prog scenes. They even occasionally had prog bootlegs, though they were pricey. I found a '76 Trick of the Tail tour 2CD boot which was about $60...luckily when I brought it to the counter they let me listen to it first...unfortunately, the sound quality was awful so I had to pass. The coolest thing CD Warehouse ever did was when Marillion came through town on the "Seasons End" tour. They played a small club in Santa Clara called The Cabaret on a Thur night, then Fri at 11am Hogarth, Rothery and Trewavis played an acoustic set on this tiny stage in the store. A few years ago the store changed focus from prog & metal to hip hop & rap for a short time then went out of business. That's what they get for turning their backs on prog fans Edited by The.Crimson.King - August 05 2013 at 16:25 |
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dr prog
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Posted: August 05 2013 at 17:10 | |||
I wish graaf stuck together for the whole 70s. Reckon they would have been big. Same with camel if they came around 3 years earlier
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All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.
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Dean
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Posted: August 05 2013 at 17:23 | |||
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dr prog
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Posted: August 05 2013 at 17:41 | |||
Oh poor genesis snobs can't get their head out of their ass lol |
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All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.
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Dean
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Posted: August 05 2013 at 18:00 | |||
Hillarious... and as laughably wrong as everyother wild unsubstantiated guess you've made today. Research, assessment, analysis, not silly guesses.
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The Dark Elf
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Posted: August 05 2013 at 20:49 | |||
Late to the party, and I didn't attend a Genesis show between 70-75 (too young), but I was at the Genesis concert at Ford Auditorium in Detroit in 1976 (Trick of the Tail, Bill Bruford drumming). A three thousand seater and It was sold out. I saw them again in 1977 (Winds and Wuthering) at the Masonic Temple in Detroit, this time sold to capacity of 5000. Both shows still rank in the top 20 or so concerts I've ever seen, and I've been to hundreds of concerts. Great light show. |
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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: August 05 2013 at 21:01 | |||
Everything was known as progressive rock in the early seventies from Elton John to Genesis. Then disco and punk happened. I think just about the only artist back in the early seventies who wasn't considered prog was Elvis. I remember in Sam the record Man in Montreal he had rows and rows in his section. Unfortunately I saw genesis in 2007 at the big O in montreal and the few early songs they did play ( and butchered ) hardly anyone knew. In fact I overheard one kid saying that one of those songs ( can't remember which one ) must be their new song. Go figure. I'm just glad I grew up during those exciting years. I remember skipping school to wait at the record store when ELP's Love Beach came out.
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Atavachron
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Posted: August 05 2013 at 21:06 | |||
It's true, progressive rock was rock for a good while, there was no separation; it was modern rock music, period, you just had to be there to remember. It's usually right about this time I like to remind A Passion Play was #1 on Billboard but no one ever believes me .
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dr prog
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Posted: August 05 2013 at 22:16 | |||
Even Abba had their proggy moments. Most music was prog related then
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All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.
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Kati
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Posted: August 05 2013 at 22:49 | |||
Not necessary the word prog, but the moozik genre certainly was, otherwise I cannot imagine why on earth Peter Gabriel would put on a red dress and a fox on his head to stand out like others, to the dismay of his band
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The.Crimson.King
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Posted: August 05 2013 at 23:01 | |||
Genesis was playing the same size venues those years in SF as you mentioned in Detroit. By comparison, King Crimson in '74 and Yes/Gentle Giant in '76 played the 14,500 seat Cow Palace. In the SF bay area, Genesis was the last of the major 70's prog bands to make the jump to the 10,000+ seat arenas. Seeng Genesis at the tiny Winterland Ballroom in '77 was way more enjoyable than seeing them in the much bigger Oakland Arena the following tour.
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Kati
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Posted: August 05 2013 at 23:16 | |||
love all I read above plus I cannot think of anything to add to that lol that's a lot of text however it's good to read plus funny enough it's most intriguing to me hugs to all xxxxx |
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