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darkshade
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Posted: August 05 2013 at 15:46 |
I liked it. Only listened once, and won't go back til I have the album. Nice and heavy, and a cool instrumental section towards the end. Kind of "whatever" chorus, but it is a lot better than the last few albums' singles like Constant Motion an A Rite of Passage, and so far, at least as good as On The Backs of Angels. Kick-ass drums are back, nice guitar tone, though it seems similar to ADTOE's tone to me. Decent enough keyboards, I'm sure there's better stuff on the album.
The song is definitely over-compressed due to to it being a stream online. OTBOA was the same way, and sounded 1000x better on the actual album. I expect the same for the new album.
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jviola95
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Posted: August 05 2013 at 15:49 |
I've only listened to the new song twice to avoid overplaying it. My first impression was that it was fairly average, but I liked it a lot more the second time.
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zeqexes
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Posted: August 05 2013 at 16:01 |
I've listened to it once, and will listen again later. I thought it sounded quite average, on first listen. The drums sounded awesome, though
Edited by zeqexes - August 05 2013 at 16:18
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Smurph
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Posted: August 05 2013 at 16:32 |
I was hoping for a "this sounds like nothing Dream Theater has ever done but is still amazing" but... it is a lead single for the album so I won't put that pressure on them for one song. I was told however, that it would be groundbreaking and is the album to get the eponymous name because it's different somehow. Maybe some Sleepytime Gorilla Museum, MirTHkon, or Cardiacs influence?
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Cthulhu42
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Posted: August 05 2013 at 17:11 |
I liked it; seemed a little "DT by the numbers", but I don't personally consider that to be a bad thing.
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zumacraig
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Posted: August 05 2013 at 18:14 |
Lyrics are pretty bad. Song is okay, but nothing amazing. Not grabbing me like last album opener.
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Dellinger
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Posted: August 05 2013 at 19:09 |
I did like this song quiet a bit, and it didn't give me the impression I got with the last two albums of having a tired same sound from before... so I guess that's good. Still, they have certainly done much better before. I hope they have even better things on the rest of the album. Oh, and I did like better the new song that was released from Haken just today.
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Ambient Hurricanes
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Posted: August 05 2013 at 19:46 |
I can tell my approach to writing and evaluating music has changed a lot in the past year, because I was actually disappointed when the guitar solo started
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zumacraig
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Posted: August 06 2013 at 10:58 |
Really, what more can these guys do? The only way they'd make any waves with this community or their fan base is if they had the balls to actually change their production techniques. I'm talking super dynamic range, vintage instruments, no reverb, dry, warm in-studio sound. Get Ethan Johns to produce. If you want an example, check out the first few Kings of Leon albums.
Really do something different!!
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Snow Dog
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Posted: August 06 2013 at 11:04 |
Can't hear it in UK
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Earendil
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Posted: August 06 2013 at 13:27 |
The instrumental parts sound great- the band sounds tight and energetic. But the chorus and verses are awful. The lyrics sound like something from a new Disturbed single. I still have hope for the album though because it looks like it will have some longer compositions.
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Smurph
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Posted: August 06 2013 at 14:16 |
zumacraig wrote:
Really, what more can these guys do? The only way they'd make any waves with this community or their fan base is if they had the balls to actually change their production techniques. I'm talking super dynamic range, vintage instruments, no reverb, dry, warm in-studio sound. Get Ethan Johns to produce. If you want an example, check out the first few Kings of Leon albums.
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I just saw Kings of Leon referenced as doing something different. I think the way for them to do something different is to take lessons from Coltrane, John Zorn, Trey Sprunace, and the really good avant-garde bands. :D
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Catcher10
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Posted: August 06 2013 at 21:06 |
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Don't worry too much about it...its nothing special. The drumming is boring, normal Mangini dbl speed pedals, and quick snare parts. Cymbal playing is not on the Portnoy level, which actually adds character. Singing is blah, keys are blah and yes no sign of Myung. At about 5:00 in I am tired of hearing that drumming already...ughhh! I hear nothing new....too much thrashy type metal, no sign of progmetal, symphonic metal. Actually this is different, seems Petrucci wants to sound like a hard edged Nickleback (did I say that!!?) Solely based on this song.....I have zero excitement for Sept 24th. They are still great musicians but the creativity seems to have vanished and the DT sound is gone. I hope the other 65min are better..... (I read this a few times b4 posting as I thought it was too harsh....but I am fine with it).
Edited by Catcher10 - August 06 2013 at 21:07
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progbethyname
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Posted: August 06 2013 at 21:22 |
Catcher10 wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Can't hear it in UK |
Don't worry too much about it...its nothing special. The drumming is boring, normal Mangini dbl speed pedals, and quick snare parts. Cymbal playing is not on the Portnoy level, which actually adds character. Singing is blah, keys are blah and yes no sign of Myung. At about 5:00 in I am tired of hearing that drumming already...ughhh! I hear nothing new....too much thrashy type metal, no sign of progmetal, symphonic metal. Actually this is different, seems Petrucci wants to sound like a hard edged Nickleback (did I say that!!?) Solely based on this song.....I have zero excitement for Sept 24th. They are still great musicians but the creativity seems to have vanished and the DT sound is gone. I hope the other 65min are better..... (I read this a few times b4 posting as I thought it was too harsh....but I am fine with it).
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Oh sh*t. That bad to you huh? I have not listen to the track yet and I won't till I get my hands on the album of course. It's just the way I like to do things, but your critique sounds quite harsh and sadly I can totally understand it being entirely possible of being accurate. :(
A hard-edged NickleBack sounds awfully scary to me. Man, I hope DT ruin my great 2013 streak of killer music releases.
On another note, sorry the track has killed your buzz for the album release date. See....this is why I wait. Lol
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Catcher10
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Posted: August 06 2013 at 21:36 |
I don't think DT sounds "bad"....Bad can still sound good, some have commented on the production. I connected my laptop to my system and it was OK, being of course probably 128k feed, maybe 256, so I will not comment on that...Its an online release, its gonna sound "bad". The biggest thing with this song is there is no magic...again I hope the other 65min have DT magic. And yes they need to be critiqued hard, they are seasoned vets, exceptional musicians. Petrucci and Portnoy created some great stuff together....Penn without Teller would be boring and not worthy of Vegas. I too will get the new album and hope for better..but this ONE song is blah....hopefully I will eat my words Sept 24th.
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Horizons
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Posted: August 06 2013 at 22:43 |
Catcher10 wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Can't hear it in UK |
Don't worry too much about it...its nothing special. The drumming is boring, normal Mangini dbl speed pedals, and quick snare parts. Cymbal playing is not on the Portnoy level, which actually adds character. Singing is blah, keys are blah and yes no sign of Myung. At about 5:00 in I am tired of hearing that drumming already...ughhh! I hear nothing new....too much thrashy type metal, no sign of progmetal, symphonic metal. Actually this is different, seems Petrucci wants to sound like a hard edged Nickleback (did I say that!!?) Solely based on this song.....I have zero excitement for Sept 24th. They are still great musicians but the creativity seems to have vanished and the DT sound is gone. I hope the other 65min are better..... (I read this a few times b4 posting as I thought it was too harsh....but I am fine with it).
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It's okay bud - we had the same post. And same thoughts. You're not alone.
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Luna
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Posted: August 06 2013 at 22:56 |
As someone who hated their last album, I actually enjoyed the new song a decent amount.
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rogerthat
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Posted: August 06 2013 at 22:57 |
Horizons wrote:
That's what they always say. Lol.
The song isn't really bad i suppose, James isn't trying things vocally that makes him sound like a cat being stepped on. |
Exactly, the one major positive for me - LaBrie singing well within himself, just doing his job. I actually forgot it was he at the mike for a while.
Yeah, sounds very 90s. Hope this is not too representative of the album, but this is the story of their recent work so wouldn't be surprised if it is.
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Ambient Hurricanes
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Posted: August 06 2013 at 23:16 |
I wasn't too crazy about the vocals myself, but that probably was just because the melody was kind of boring (at least it seemed so only listening once). One thing I liked about the last album was that the melodies were good. Like they actually spent some time on the melodies instead of just throwing something together quick that fit the chord progression. The melody on this one sounds kind of amateurish and generic. Again - only one listen so far, so my opinion might change on further listens, but...
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rogerthat
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Posted: August 06 2013 at 23:27 |
Did sound boring to me too, pretty standard issue metal melody.
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