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    Posted: June 04 2013 at 11:19
My set of vintage but pretty good-sounding JBL TLX-70 3-way speakers needs refoaming. I have never done it myself, in the past when I lived in Spain there was a shop close to my place where they did it and I always took my speakers there for refoaming.
Now that I live in Belgium I do not know any place where they do it, but having searched the net a bit it seems that it's not difficult at all so I am considering to order the new rings and do it myself (possibly rubber instead of the original foam since rubber lasts much longer and apparently the sound quality does not necessarily suffer).

1. Anyone with experience in refoaming speakers who can give some useful advice?

2. Am I right to replace the original foam rings by rubber rings?

3. Any advice for fitting them? (I know about the importance of centering them).

4. I will replace the rings of the woofers and mid-ranges. I can't see anything on the tweeters, they are kind of sealed. Is there anything I should worry about the tweeters? How to know if they are OK or not?

5. One of the dustcaps was 'pushed-in', I tried to pull it back with a vacuum cleaner and adhesive tape pulling and it got better but not completely fine. Should I worry about it and fix it? or I couldn't care less?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 04 2013 at 11:41
Originally posted by Gerinski Gerinski wrote:

My set of vintage but pretty good-sounding JBL TLX-70 3-way speakers needs refoaming. I have never done it myself, in the past when I lived in Spain there was a shop close to my place where they did it and I always took my speakers there for refoaming.
Now that I live in Belgium I do not know any place where they do it, but having searched the net a bit it seems that it's not difficult at all so I am considering to order the new rings and do it myself (possibly rubber instead of the original foam since rubber lasts much longer and apparently the sound quality does not necessarily suffer).

1. Anyone with experience in refoaming speakers who can give some useful advice?

2. Am I right to replace the original foam rings by rubber rings?

3. Any advice for fitting them? (I know about the importance of centering them).

4. I will replace the rings of the woofers and mid-ranges. I can't see anything on the tweeters, they are kind of sealed. Is there anything I should worry about the tweeters? How to know if they are OK or not?

5. One of the dustcaps was 'pushed-in', I tried to pull it back with a vacuum cleaner and adhesive tape pulling and it got better but not completely fine. Should I worry about it and fix it? or I couldn't care less?

Thanks !
 
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This is pretty easy to do. You can get refoaming kits online, not sure about in Belgium. I use this website http://www.simplyspeakers.com/
You can search for the speaker model or call/email them to be sure you get the right size. They have detailed instructions on the process
You can get foam, but I would get the rubber ones for better performance.
 
I have a pr of older speakers I built and refoamed the 10" woofers last year. The cleaning process is very important, especially removing the old foam from the paper cone, making sure not to damage the cone. Also removing all the foam from the metal spider so the new one adheres very well.
 
As far as the dust cap, as long as it is not damaged it should be fine, you can also use a small, very small needle to pull out the dent, vacuum is the best though. Don't fret too much if it does not pull 100% out, if you choose you can replace that also....I never have though.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 04 2013 at 15:40
I'm sure there's a youtube"How to" viddy. Youtube is great for that stuff normally. Good luck.
(Another thing to LOVE about Klipsch speakers: NO FOAM woofers!!) 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 04 2013 at 17:50
^ same with BOSE. They use really thick magnets as conductors and insulators, which makes them heavy as f**k but the quality is beautiful. Lasts a life time, specifically the Bose acoustimass 10. Can't say enough about this sound system and it's only 1700$
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2013 at 02:37
Thanks, yes I have seen 'how to' videos, looks straightforward so I'm gonna try.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2013 at 15:10
Hi,
 
JA-MAC in Portland Oregon ... but dang it you are in Belgium!
 
 
They re-coned my speakers 30 years ago, and did it again 2 years ago on my ESS-Heil AMT's ... and they are as good as new!
 
Best place I have ever seen, and when they saw that magnet on the speaker the dad told me ... wow ... they don't make them that strong and sturdy anymore!  I wanted to add a mid-range to the speaker and asked him if it was worth it ... he said nope. You already have one of the best for it, and breaking it apart will not be as good as it is together right now!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2013 at 15:13
Originally posted by progbethyname progbethyname wrote:

^ same with BOSE. They use really thick magnets as conductors and insulators, which makes them heavy as f**k but the quality is beautiful. Lasts a life time, specifically the Bose acoustimass 10. Can't say enough about this sound system and it's only 1700$
 
Same as the ESS-Heil AMT's I have! That woofer is heavy! I mean ... HEAVY, and the music can't stand it! Confused
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 01 2013 at 13:46
Just to close the subject in case it may be helpful for someone in the future.
I got the replacement rubber rings, glue and checked some internet instructions (the company who supplied the rings has a 'how to' photo and video guide in their website), and I proceeded with my first refoaming experience.
It's not difficult at all, it requires some patience and careful work for removing the old rings and all the old glue in the cones and spiders taking special care not to damage the cones.
Fitting the new rings is easy but I must say that due to the lack of experience the aesthetic side of the job was not too good, I couldn't help uneven patches of glue showing up, some imprecision in the precise centering resulting in some 'wrinkles' in the rubber sight etc. I don't notice any problems in the sound but if I should want to sell the speakers I guess that the untidy look of the new rings may well prevent me from getting a good value, which is a shame given that the speakers are really good units (I said it before, they are JBL's).
When fitting the new rings, centering the speakers properly is important but it's not difficult if you have seen guidance videos.

Summary: it's not difficult at all but if you don't have the experience it may be difficult to get an aesthetically nice job at the first try, and this may hamper reselling the speakers.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 01 2013 at 23:51
  • Complete inspection and testing of cone, spider, frame, voice coil, and lead wires.
  • Replacement of the required speaker surround and gasket.
  • Full testing on completed repair.
  • Warranty: 7 years(Automotive speakers: 1 year)
  • The most common failure on most speakers is foam edge deterioration or dry rot.
  • If the speaker foam (outer edge) is bad, speaker refoaming will make your speakers look and sound just like brand new!
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