What Doors songs are the most Prog?

humor4u1959 wrote: Some folks still haven't learned to read. I never called anyone a moron. Read it again if you must. I said that the idea that drugs inspire or make an artist more creative is a moronic idea. IT IS! How many will have to die before people finally get it? Drugs kill and destroy lives. I only reacted in a zealous manner because I was shocked by the comments. I posted a sincere statement that was factual. Morrison was messed up. And I get moronic replies? Of course, I'm going to respond. Nice, smart, or semi-smart people often say moronic things. Happens all the time. Bottom is this. I was and still am a huge Doors fan. And I'll always feel it was sad that he died from his substance abuse. End of story. If I offended anyone, I'm sure you'll get over it.

I agree wholeheartedly with the idea but abhor the way it was communicated. You have now merely reiterated that those who take a contrary view are 'moronic'
Perhaps Bill Hicks (who otherwise, I adored) was culpable in disseminating this skew-whiff notion that 'if you deplore recreational drugs, burn your record collection etc' and like yourself, I've always been dismayed by how heartily we celebrate those who have frittered away their precious talents in any creative sphere through drug abuse e.g. George Best, Paul Gascoigne in football and John Belushi and Sam Kinison in comedy etc. Maybe it's tantamount to us rubbernecking at that celebrity pile up on dawn's hi-way bleeding?.

The fact that you were shocked by the elicited comments is your issue to deal with, not ours. Factual statements do not rest on anyone's sincerity and a cerebral giant such as yourself does not need an intellectual pygmy like myself to tell you otherwise.

The.Crimson.King wrote: King Only wrote: I think a lot of Morrison's problems with drugs and alcohol were a manifestation of his problems with his parents. If I remember correctly his parents strongly disapproved of his decision to join a rock band. His dad was a military guy. I remember reading somewhere that his dad often told Jim that he had no talent for music or writing. It's hard when your own family can't understand who you are and don't support your dreams. Ya, Jim's father was a Rear Admiral in the US Navy and they never saw eye-to-eye.  I remember reading that in the 1st Doors press release the 4 guys each had to fill out a press questionnaire and under "Parents" Jim said that his were dead (which of course they weren't).

humor4u1959 wrote: Morrison, in fact, wrote very little of the Doors material. After all, he didn't play an instrument. He mainly wrote lyrics. But, I think they now credit all Doors stuff as a band effort.

Edited by NotAProghead - June 07 2013 at 20:57

^ I must have missed some lyrical material where Jim was singing about Jesus ... ?

I think he was responding to Andrey's claim that there's never an excuse for "vicious zeal".   He says Jesus had a lot of zeal, and we all agree Jesus was a great guy, therefore it can be appropriate for one of us to use zeal.  Something like that, anyway.  Forcing you to either agree with him or claim that Jesus acted inappropriately. A trap!  

Thanks, that's what I was saying. I like the idea of zeal, in the right people, only.  Also,

humor4u1959 wrote: TO: NotaProgHead: If you truly believe that Morrison wrote the majority of songs, then I may have some swamp land to sell you in Florida. LOL! That's nonsense. Lyrically? Yes. Musically, no. I'm a musician and it's very hard to compose when one plays no instrument. Perhaps he would make up melodies, hum them to the band, and someone would write them down. Sure, that's possible. 'Hello, I Love You' is a good example. But, it's so simplistic. Besides, you made my case for me. Krieger wrote their top hit, 'Light My Fire.' Plus, 'Touch Me' and many others. Enough of this silly arguing about the Doors already. Oops, you're wrong 'bout LA Woman too. 'Love Her Madly' was all Krieger, words and music.

Calls himself humour and all  I see is a lack of it.

humor4u1959 wrote: I think of the Doors as prog very much. But, they had hits on AM radio. There is the difference. Listen to what other bands were doing at that time and they were definitely prog. And, I love the Doors. They were so unique and original. Probably the best American band of that era. 'Unknown Soldier' is one of my all-time faves. It's just sad that Morrison was so messed up.

The above is my original post that started all this crap. Read it. Then, read the replies. It IS sad that he was messed up. Heck, even the other Doors thought so. It was an innocent, factual comment. Then, we get all these folks who think it was okay?

I'm done with this site! You're all a bunch of idiots anyway. Thinking prog is alive and well? Give me a break! It died in the 1970's! Hello, is anyone home? Nobody wants to hear Supper's Ready or The End nowadays.

I joined this site thinking it would be a nice place to be nostalgic with others who enjoyed prog music. And I find idiots who DON'T think it's sad that Morrison was messed up and died???!!!

Edited by humor4u1959 - June 14 2013 at 23:40

Here's my two cents
Jim had fun. He lived life to it's fullest, sometimes with total abandon. But he was also somewhat fragile, in a way, and something, maybe drugs, maybe all the fame, life in general, something tore him apart, and possibly killed him (we may never know). But most of all, he was a damned good lyricist and singer.