The Prog Mind

-Radioswim- wrote: As for the earlier discussion, I find the disdain for 'philosophy' to be a bit disheartening. Philosophy at it's most widely understood and simplest form is the pursuit of understanding. I think it's often mistaken for ideology, which I think is the result of that pursuit, of philosophical theorizing. The statements that philosophy is pointless or harmful seems a bit splendorous, seeing as we as intelligent beings are practically theorizing non-stop, even if you don't mean to.

[splendorous? really? are you sure?  okay, if you say so ]

-Radioswim- wrote: Philosophy was never invented, it's been a part of us from the beginning. Sure, people are still starving, there are still pointless wars, but at what rate? History tells us, much lower than previously. Was the extremity of that variable even considered when you made the statement?

Dean wrote: Show me one case where we as a species has learnt from their mistakes. We are all arrogant. Empires still rise and fall, we still wage pointless wars, people still die of starvation. History has taught us nothing.

-Radioswim- wrote: Philosophy only becomes harmful when the pursuit of understanding becomes more important than our empathy. To assume that as the inevitable end is foolish, I think we've already proven otherwise.

I think we haven't proven a damn thing.

-Radioswim- wrote: Evidence of the good? Well, look around you. Virtually everything you understand as good or truth in your life, and everything else you enjoy in your life is a result of our nature, of the endless thirst to understand ourselves, philosophy.

It's so private for me. I don't want anyone to witness me listening to King Crimson's Islands. I don't want their opinion or reaction as to why Boz sounds cheesy singing "Beneath the winter waves" or their sarcastic comments about the music not fitting to the times we are now living in. A majority of people in society constantly place emphasis on that and it's annoying. What physically and emotionally fell into place on the day Boz recorded the vocals for Islands is timeless in it's own right. I must have a certain mind set to even hear it.  White Willow has the same affect lyrically and the listening pleasure must be private and isolated....because I've noticed most people cringing at the sound of it. It's as if you end up answering a thousand questions if you broadcast the music in your living room while friends are over, put into a position to defend it and judged. If my kids hear Art Zoyd or Univers Zero, they have an understanding that it is quite like Classical music and dismiss any reaction of fear influenced from the music. They realize that the sections which create a feeling of suspense sound like  my film compositions and they identify with the art somehow...even though they are too young to comprehend abstract thinking. When their friends sleep over and parents knock on the door to drop off their child...if Art Zoyd or Patricia Dallio are playing in the kitchen...it must stop immediately because if the parents hear the music they may find me questionable.