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cstack3
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Posted: May 28 2013 at 19:37 |
Thanks, all, I'm learning much I didn't know about both sci fi works AND prog bands/music!!
This is a great story about the Barrons, who composed the amazing electronic music used in the sci-fi classic movie "Forbidden Planet"! Please play the little video links at the left, as they showcase how the music was used to enhance the sci-fi visuals! The music of the Krell! |
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verslibre
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Posted: May 28 2013 at 18:19 |
Speaking of Canada, let's not forget Saga. Of the first four albums to reflect the earliest songs of the band's "Chapters" SF concept, the 2nd and 3rd sport great Tony Roberts paintings.. And then a couple decades later, the second album to resume the "Chapters," which was House Of Cards.
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Aussie-Byrd-Brother
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Posted: May 28 2013 at 18:01 |
That is a GREAT album! Lots of (slightly cheesy?!) sci-fi synths all over it! I just bought the new CD reissue, anxiously awaiting it to show up at the door any day now! |
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verslibre
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Posted: May 28 2013 at 17:54 |
The music is more on the funky avant-garde jazz side of things, but I think this qualifies. Love the film.
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questionsneverknown
Forum Senior Member Joined: June 22 2009 Location: Ultima Thule Status: Offline Points: 602 |
Posted: May 28 2013 at 17:35 |
Some here might also be curious to know that J. G. Ballard spoke/read at the Phun City rock festival in 1970, Ecclesden Common near Worthing in Sussex. Also on the bill were the Pretty Things, Mighty Baby, Kevin Ayers, MC5, Pink Fairies, Edgar Broughton Band, Mungo Jerry and many others.
I think of Ballard as having some effect on Hawkwind (largely because of the Moorcock connection), but his influence was probably much bigger on post-punk music than on prog.
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The damage that we do is just so powerfully strong we call it love
The damage that we do just goes on and on and on but not long enough. --Robyn Hitchcock |
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Second Life Syndrome
Prog Reviewer Joined: August 20 2012 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 361 |
Posted: May 28 2013 at 17:29 |
I was obsessed with Jeff Wayne's WotW when I was younger. H.G. Wells is my favorite author, after all.
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cstack3
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Posted: May 28 2013 at 17:14 |
Absolutely! Bob Fripp seemed to embrace sci-fi throughout his career, particularly the dark, Harlan Ellison "Dangerous Visions" type of apocalyptic future! I thought "Epitaph" was a nice, dark little look into the future.... This cover art for "The Power To Believe" really raises the bar in terms of dark foreboding future visions! Great job, Bob!! |
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bonestorm
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Posted: May 28 2013 at 16:41 |
Agree with Stool Man, Jeff Wayne's War of the Worlds is a classic and very much a favourite from my youth.
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questionsneverknown
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Posted: May 28 2013 at 16:03 |
When Alejandro Jodorowsky was planning his film of Dune in the 1970s (with Orson Welles as the Baron Harkonnen, Salvador Dali as the Emperor, and Moebius and Giger doing the art design) he said he wanted the music to be done by Pink Floyd and Magma (and Henry Cow, I think). That may just have been ambition--who knows how far it got in the planning.
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The damage that we do is just so powerfully strong we call it love
The damage that we do just goes on and on and on but not long enough. --Robyn Hitchcock |
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brainstormer
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Posted: May 28 2013 at 15:16 |
Not sure if everyone realizes this, but certain people, and I think they are right, make
a big distinction between the terms "science fiction" and "fantasy." I think this is a general bookseller distinction, probably used also in film. Fantasy could include mythology, and usually doesn't have futuristic themes, often antiquated surroundings. On some level, the words can all mean the same thing, in practice, there is a practical distinction used in different industries.
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Second Life Syndrome
Prog Reviewer Joined: August 20 2012 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 361 |
Posted: May 28 2013 at 14:58 |
Thanks! He really sounds like Phil, especially on the softer end. He also has the same balding pattern .
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stegor
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Posted: May 28 2013 at 14:58 |
An all-time favorite is FM's Black Noise, not really a concept album but full of sci-fi concepts. The opener is even called "Phasors on Stun", even though it has nothing to do with Star Trek. A lot of it has a Star Trek attitude though, sort of tongue in cheek and sometimes a bit corny.
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octopus-4
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Posted: May 28 2013 at 14:57 |
Michael Moorcock had also his own band: Michael Moorcock and Deep Fix, space rock but more rock than space, lighter than Hawkwind but not too bad.
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I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution
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richardh
Prog Reviewer Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 28029 |
Posted: May 28 2013 at 14:07 |
Nick Magnus - Inhaling Green, is oft overlooked
Tarkus was part organic and part machine which links in nicely with H R Giger who did the artwork for Brain Salad Surgery and later brought the part organic part machine Alien to life (based on two of his paintings that Ridley Scott liked apparently)
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octopus-4
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Posted: May 28 2013 at 13:59 |
Klaus Schulze's Dune was released long before the movie and wasn't good for a soundtrack even if it's an excellent album (and my first Schulze purchase)
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I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution
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moshkito
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Posted: May 28 2013 at 13:56 |
Michael Moorcock was involved as far back as "In Search of Space" is my understanding. Space Ritual would fit, in subject matter, though some songs tend to be about sic-fi comic book heroes in my stupid understanding of these things. (Master of the Universe and such) Klaus Schulze ... and his original music for the film DUNE was not used, and he released it as an album himself. The film could have used his material on it, to add depth to a superficial, cartoonish story and vision of the whole thing. But without the effects like today, what they did then was harder ... but they could have made use of video better to do some of the things they did! Klaus Schulze ... Cyborg ... however I can not tell you the connection. ... and many other albums of his as well, have had names and mentions for inspiration ... (I'll add more as time goes by after I look at my collection ... many many missing here!)
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VOTOMS
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Posted: May 28 2013 at 11:32 |
I found prog with Tarkus cover. An armadillo-mecha. This is so prog sci-fi.
Take a look at Nocturnus (tech/extreme prog) album covers. Cool.
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Stool Man
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Posted: May 28 2013 at 11:17 |
the Dr Who theme is proggish, and was quoted by Pink Floyd for years. Coheed & Cambria's entire career is one huge Sci-Fi epic. Queensryche's Operation Mindcrime, and lots by Alan Parsons Project, Hawkwind, Nektar & Muse and this: Edited by Stool Man - May 28 2013 at 11:20 |
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rotten hound of the burnie crew
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Snow Dog
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Posted: May 28 2013 at 10:54 |
I like SF and I like Prog. I don't necessarily want them together though;.
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questionsneverknown
Forum Senior Member Joined: June 22 2009 Location: Ultima Thule Status: Offline Points: 602 |
Posted: May 28 2013 at 10:51 |
Here are a variety of examples that instantly pop in my head:
1) As already noted, Rush's 2112, which, alongside "Anthem," is partly grounded in Rand's science-fiction work called Anthem. Apparently Peart was, at the time, also loosely inspired by works like Samuel Delany's Babel-17. More recently though, Peart collaborated with science-fiction author Kevin J. Anderson for Clockwork Angels (with the latter writing a full novel built on that album's premise). 2) Frank Zappa references his love for z-grade sci-fi films in "Cheepnis" and "The Radio is Broken." A particular love seems to have been Zontar, Thing from Venus. 3) The band Astra reference Brian Aldiss with their song "Barefoot in the Head." 4) Magma's entire body of work strikes me as an epic act of alternate world building. 5) Wigwam's Being is a pretty amazing work that dialectically bounces around utopias and dystopias. 6) ELP's Tarkus, perhaps? And oh so much more.
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The damage that we do is just so powerfully strong we call it love
The damage that we do just goes on and on and on but not long enough. --Robyn Hitchcock |
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