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Poll Question: To celebrate the late Ray Manzarek...What Doors songs are Proggiest?
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    Posted: May 20 2013 at 21:34
I just heard that Ray Manzarek has died.  As one of the first well known organ/keyboard players in rock, Ray helped create The Doors signature sound.  Besides the straight ahead rock numbers that brought The Doors radio airplay and fame, there were plenty of proggish moments for this genre stretching rock band.

To honour the memory of Ray, select those songs that you think defined the proggiest moments of The Doors.

This is a multiple choice poll so choose all The Doors songs that you think fall in the prog realm.

RIP Ray Manzarek...Break On Through!


Edited by The.Crimson.King - May 20 2013 at 21:36
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 20 2013 at 22:42
Oh, that's a large choice of 'em.

"The Crystal Ship"
"Light My Fire" (why do you think this album is so heavily celebrated even by non-prog listeners?  )
"Riders on the Storm"


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 20 2013 at 23:28
I had to cast a vote for The Changeling, one of my favorites of theirs and one that I played when I was in a band many moons ago. Our bassist had a really hard time with it. And yes, I voted several others.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 20 2013 at 23:32
There is another list asking what the Proggiest Doors songs are......I always will love 'Ships w/Sails' - maybe a re-hash of 'Riders On The Storm', but I love Ray's voice and the groove of that song cooks.  I'll be spinning 'The Golden Scarab' this eve in memory of Ray.  I've always admired Ray - interviews with the man show him to be a loving, caring, intelligent down-to-Earth human being.  The world is a marginally lesser place without him.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 20 2013 at 23:40
I have missed his gig only few months ago....Shocked
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 21 2013 at 02:56
Light My Fire and When the Music's Over are fine examples of proto-prog.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 21 2013 at 04:59
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 21 2013 at 11:52
Went with...

The Crystal Ship (the opening line "And as you slip into unconsciousness I'd like to have another kiss" always reminds me of something Peter Hammill would later write)
The End (a Greek tragedy based 12 minute song in 1967...that's prog Wink)
When the Music's Over (another multi-part extended song..."We want the world and we want it...now")
Celebration of the Lizard (this is an amazing 14+ minute live performance piece combining poetry and some real out-of-the-box music)
Hyacinth House (a great mournful chord progression in the verses)
People Are Strange
Strange Days


RIP Ray Manzarek...Break On Through!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 21 2013 at 12:10
Catacombs, nursery bones
Winter women throwing stones
Carrying babies to the river
Streets and shoes, avenues
Leather writers selling news
The Monk bought lunch

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 21 2013 at 12:12
There are many many awesome proggy moments in the Doors catalog but

The End
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Riders on the Storm

are the two that stick out in my mind
Prog On!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 21 2013 at 15:46
Lost in a Roman...wilderness of pain
And all the children are insane
All the children are insane
Waiting for the summer rain, yeah
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 21 2013 at 15:53
Originally posted by HolyMoly HolyMoly wrote:

Catacombs, nursery bones
Winter women throwing stones
Carrying babies to the river
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Leather writers selling news
The Monk bought lunch

'nursery bones' - I always thought of it as nursery poems.......but it sounds more 'bones' than 'poems' and TSP is my least favourite Doors album...........
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 21 2013 at 16:52
I'm going to have to take a ride on The Crystal Ship.  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2013 at 03:26
I voted for The End but that the most progressive song by the Doors could be almost any song from the list.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2013 at 03:39
The End, When the Music's Over, The Soft Parade,  Celebration of the Lizard
This night wounds time.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2013 at 08:22
musics over
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2013 at 21:31
I guess "The End".

On another note, would "Spanish Caravan" be considered prog?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 23 2013 at 06:00
For me the Celebration of the Lizard certainly sends an echo that many Prog giants possibly caught (albeit unwittingly) re the segueing of several short discrete musical sections into a thematically linked whole e.g. Suppers Ready, Thick as a Brick, Tarkus et al
However, the danger here is that we start judging the Doors by criteria that are completely alien to their art i.e. they never aspired to being a Prog Rock band and apart from some frankly wretched poetry, they have precious little in common with the bands fronted by the likes of Gabriel, Sinfield, Lake and Anderson

Disclaimer: I adore the Doors, own all their albums but find very little justification for their proto prog inclusion on PA. I've always considered them a far greater influence on Post Punk than Progressive Rock. You can trace their lineage in Joy Division, Patti Smith, Teardrop Explodes and Echo & the Bunnymen but precisely squat in Yes, Genesis, ELP or Crimson.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 23 2013 at 22:57

Write in: Hello, I Love You


I love when oddness is repeated in a pop hook like accompaniment.  It's like saying,
we can be weird and creative and we can make it fit in.  It works much better for me,
then prolonged weirdness that seems to meander. 

Spacing out and playing odd background noises is fine, but doesn't show the same
type of skills, debatable, of course, on its a great  level of skills.  Witness how much bad
pop music some prog bands wrote, and then listen to something like "Hello I love You"
"Light My Fire," and it goes on and on.....some great musical lyricism in the Doors.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 29 2013 at 08:05
I can't really handle the majority of their music but my God The Doors had some incredible moments didn't they.  Most of them are found in the selection above too Clap.

I absolutely loved Manzarek's organ work.

As to the vote, too many to choose from.  An impossible choice
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