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The Dark Elf ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: February 01 2011 Location: Michigan Status: Offline Points: 13097 |
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The Doors weren't psychedelic?
Hmmm....from my experience, they went along with mushrooms quite well. Anyway, from a progressive psychedelic standpoint, the monk bought lunch. |
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King Only ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 19 2013 Location: Tokyo, Japan Status: Offline Points: 554 |
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The Doors did some great tracks.
Love how their music was used at the beginning of the "Apocalypse Now" movie. I read the drummer John Densmore's autobiography "Riders On The Storm", a very interesting book that has a lot of information about the band without the typical sensationalism. I've heard that the recent documentary DVD "When You're Strange" is very good but I haven't had a chance to see it yet.
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Larree ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 10 2013 Location: Hollywood, CA Status: Offline Points: 869 |
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R.I.P. Ray Manzarek
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NotAProghead ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Errors & Omissions Team Joined: October 22 2005 Location: Russia Status: Offline Points: 7872 |
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Damn, the news I never wanted to hear. Ray Manzarek passed away.
RIP, Ray. Thank you for the music that means so much to me.
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Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour)
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Svetonio ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 20 2010 Location: Serbia Status: Offline Points: 10213 |
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RIP Ray Manzarek
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Pietro Otello Romano ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 22 2011 Location: London Status: Offline Points: 112 |
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I do!... I don't think Doors were any good at all, on my opinion they were just a overvalued commercial band, in line with the time that were generally on an higher level than now, but as a phenomenon they were not better than U2 or Michael Jackson. They are the shame of Prog Archives. I am sorry for the Doors fan but on my opinion they shouldn't be here at all! ![]() |
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"We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful
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Horizons ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: January 20 2011 Location: Somewhere Else Status: Offline Points: 16952 |
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^ No. No.....
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Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.
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Dean ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
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Sorry, but opinion and preference is irrelevant, they can be the worse band in the whole world ever for all it matters. We don't judge the quality of the artist when including them in the archive.
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ole-the-first ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 03 2012 Location: Russia Status: Offline Points: 1534 |
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The Doors were one of the most innovative and experimental bands of late 60s, so they were definitely some kind of protoype of prog. Pretty much close to what we call prog actually, way closer than The Beatles.
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The Dark Elf ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: February 01 2011 Location: Michigan Status: Offline Points: 13097 |
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Bzuh? "Overvalued commercial band"? It's well past April Fool's Day, so I have to assume you're being serious, if not a bit depleted in cognitive ability. The Doors certainly had hit singles, but I would suggest that they were not at all "commercial" in either composition, lyrics or philosophy. Far from it. If anything, they spurned greater commercial success. For instance, Jim Morrison refused to censor the song "Light My Fire" on the Ed Sullivan Show, and they were never invited back again. Even the Rolling Stones, the supposed bad boys of rock, backed down and changed the lyrics of "Let's Spend the Night Together" for the Sullivan Show due to its enormous popularity. But Morrison did not care. Definitely proto-prog, and certainly more adventurous than half the bands labeled prog.
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ElectricWanderer ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: August 29 2010 Location: Finland Status: Offline Points: 28 |
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I've always liked The Doors, but I've also noticed that there is a very persistent group of people among "classic rock" music listeners who absolutely despise them. I've never understood it. Probably it's just another one of these cases where a band became very successful and didn't fit into their tastes so they feel compelled to find any excuse to push them down. POR also mentioned U2, which is an another good example of this. I know a lot of people who "hate" U2. As far as I know, none of them ever listened to any of the albums U2 made at their peak. They just know some of the overplayed hits and have a vague general image of Bono being some sort of an a****le. Hence, U2 must suck. Sure. The Doors are great.
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richardh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 28368 |
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I don't like The Doors or U2. The Doors are one of those bands that when a song by them comes on the radio I have to turn it off. Its interesting that Robert Plant dubbed The Stranglers 'The British Doors' yet I like The Stranglers.
I bought Joshua Tree but found it just gave me a headache and I got rid pretty quickly. The way 80's music was produced often had that affect on me though.
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Pietro Otello Romano ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 22 2011 Location: London Status: Offline Points: 112 |
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I am totally agree, and above all I don't think they are prog at all. There are artists refused by the administrators that even if is debatable if they are better than the Doors, at least they are in the boundaries of progrock: Cat Stevens (Foreigner suite), Joe Jackson (Heaven and Hell, Night Music) etc... Consequentially my question is about the the nature of this site, is it a site about prog music, or just a site of good contemporary music? Because if its the latter, it is ever trickier, which are the parameter to discern the good music from the "bad"? Is Morricone bad music? Or are the Pooh, (that are listed here) good music? |
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"We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful
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NotAProghead ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Errors & Omissions Team Joined: October 22 2005 Location: Russia Status: Offline Points: 7872 |
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It's a site about prog and prog-related music. Some is good, some bad, and nothing's better than the Doors.
![]() Anyway the aim of the site is to present prog rock in its various forms. I hope you've seen About page: http://www.progarchives.com/about_us.asp
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Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour)
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ExittheLemming ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 19 2007 Location: Penal Colony Status: Offline Points: 11420 |
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No-one is claiming that the Doors were a Prog band. They are listed here as Proto Prog which means (amongst other things) that they AIN'T a Prog band. They are however deemed to have contributed to that bridge between Psyche and Prog that occurred during the late 60's. As Dean has already pointed out, there are no parameters on PA to discern good music from bad music: artists are considered for inclusion based on their relevance to Prog Rock. Cat Stevens was nominated but rejected here: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=74623&KW=Cat+Stevens but I can't find a similar nomination for Joe Jackson (whose work I like and he's written a symphony but that doesn't make him relevant to Prog Rock) Are the Pooh a band you think worthy of inclusion or are you just talking s.h.i.t.e? |
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Michael678 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 02 2013 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2466 |
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today marks a 1 year anniversary of a sad tragedy that happened on this day last year: this man died from bile duct cancer...
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Pietro Otello Romano ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 22 2011 Location: London Status: Offline Points: 112 |
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No I don`t think at all that Pooh are worty of inclusion, I just let you know that they are already included. Check the link: http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=3832 and get the information before talking s.h.i.t.e. all the best |
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"We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful
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ExittheLemming ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 19 2007 Location: Penal Colony Status: Offline Points: 11420 |
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sarcasm just flies over your head methinks (it's a missile not a frisbee)
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Dean ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
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Things may come and things may go but the I Pooh debate goes on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on ... And on and on and on and on....
No, they are not a Prog band, though the fount of all misinformation, wikipoodiah, says they are. They were/are a pop band that in the 70s made a couple of symphonic Prog albums in the RPI style and for that they qualify for addition here.
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ExittheLemming ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 19 2007 Location: Penal Colony Status: Offline Points: 11420 |
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