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moshkito ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 04 2007 Location: Grok City Status: Offline Points: 18149 |
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Have to admit that I miss Merv ... this guy that replaced him is not as good
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Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told!
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Drumstruck ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() Joined: July 15 2014 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 33 |
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Somehow I missed hearing about this band..... but better late than never.... really enjoying their albums over the last few days. So far have heard:
Curious Corn Strangeitude Jurassic Shift Pungent Effulgent Waterfall Cities The YumYum Tree All very good - I hear a lot of Gong (esp Hillage), Hawkwind, Yes in them, but with their ownness too. |
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verslibre ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 01 2004 Location: CA Status: Offline Points: 18706 |
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Don't miss Erpland, Live Underslunky, Sunrise Festival and even the last studio release, Paper Monkeys, which was better than I expected it to be! |
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Tom Ozric ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: September 03 2005 Location: Olympus Mons Status: Offline Points: 15926 |
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moshkito ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 04 2007 Location: Grok City Status: Offline Points: 18149 |
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Not here in Portland they weren't, despite my having warned them both times!
They did not take care that the sound board was setup correctly and the results were horrible. The previous time, the keyboards died twice, and the 2nd time our man lost his synth, and the son also was out of luck for a while.
It is downright ridiculous ... and only a guitar. bass and drum band ... and there are millions of those.
I've given up on this band. For me they lost it 10 years ago and then some. It has become the Wynne Family Band, and it's music design is not very good, and is now way too formulaic instead of more exploring and FUN! Brandy sounds good on the bass, in the last tour I saw them, but in the end, she is just following her man's lead, and that means the music will suffer, and Ed is not allowing the kid and her to do their own thing and he adjust to it, in order to create something different and more entertaining.
It's nice. But great went out the window a long time ago! Edited by moshkito - July 18 2014 at 14:08 |
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Blacksword ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: June 22 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 16130 |
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I lost interest after Jurassic Shift. I listened to Aborescence and it had relatively little impact on me. I don't think this is because the music declined in quality as my fading enthusiasm correlated with a significant reduction in my..ahem..substance abuse..
![]() I saw them live at a festival once. They came on just before Siouxsie & the Banshees. Needless to say it was a very good day. White Rhino Tea sounded amazing live! |
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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moshkito ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 04 2007 Location: Grok City Status: Offline Points: 18149 |
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That is the worst excuse I have EVER heard!!!!
![]() ![]() The music quality declined when John left. Whatever the reason, the "playfulness" disappeared and is now kinda ... is that supposed to be funny? ... and it's only on a title ... the music doesn't have it ... there no more "bubbles", not that we need to have them on every song! But it helped make the music fun to listen to, and that part is not there anymore, and Silas is learning the keyboards and doing only what he is told, as I do not believe that he is having a whole lot of input on anything that is done by the band ... it's 75% Ed, and the rest support him, and that's that.
I stopped doing anything, almost 35 years ago ... or before ... when one turkey said ... VERY LOUDLY ... let them smoke dope! I'll win all the elections!
To me, that was my biggest wakeup call ... but you know what? I have NEVER lost my appreciation and enjoyment for music, and I still sit back and blast my ears with Astounding Sounds Amazing Music, Strangeitude, Electric Tepee, Wolf City, just as much as Dream Theater, Spoke of Shadows, Djam Karet, just about anything ... and the more I hear it, the more ... the dope is not needed!!!!!!
The music itself, if you want, IS the dope! Edited by moshkito - July 21 2014 at 15:53 |
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Drumstruck ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() Joined: July 15 2014 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 33 |
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Thankyou - I heard "Erpland" yesterday - I thought that album started slowly and got better and better as it went. :-) Followed by "Become the Other" which was also excellent - the song Vibuthi was a real highlight
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bestbass42 ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: October 11 2012 Location: Wolverhampton Status: Offline Points: 1 |
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A Bit to add to this. The Ozrics were formed at The Stonehenge 'free festival' back in 1983 with most of its original members coming from Somerset. They were already widely established as one of the leading festival bands long before the 1990s mentioned. In fact by that time the 'free' new-age hippie type festival scene had all but been closed down by the UK government by the early 1990s.
Gavin Griffiths left the band and formed 'The Ullulators' who were/are a superb band very much in the style of the Ozrics but taking a slight side step away. Both bands seemed to share the same members at various times and Ed Wynes brother was bass player in both bands before his death. The Ullulators too released several early albums on DIY cassette only and these feature some great music however like everything else 'self released' during these times they suffer from poor production, tape hiss, sound drops & continuity how the tracks play. (A Promised Ullulators 3xCD of all the old cassette tapes professionally remastered for CD has now gone into its 6th year!!!). However at the same time as the Ozrics went into a studio to make their first 'professional' album (which was 'Pungent Effulgent' not 'Erpland') The Ullulators also went into the studio and made a brilliant album. Check out 1989s 'Flaming Khaos' (available on CD from Amazon) its brilliant! Space-Rock/Dub/Reggae/world all mixed together to make one powerful album. Featuring some superb vocals from June Bradfield and awesome 'Hillage' type guitar from Griffiths (especially the last track 'Do You Wanna?'). They arnt as reliant on the synths as the Ozrics but their songs are very melodic. 'Jurassic Shift' was the Ozrics best selling album far out selling 'Strangeitude' reaching number 11 in the UK album charts back in 1993. Throughout the 90s and early 2000s the Ozrics managed to ride out the constant line-up changes still keeping their trademark sound which can go from supersonic space-rock to ambient dub chill-out in the same track! For me losing the flute of Jumppin Jon Eagan was a big loss to the sound so too was Zias moody-brooding bass-lines. Ed Wynnes wife Brandi took over bass duties and honestly I have seen them live and I dont think she even plays the bass! It looks and sounds like its a backing track & the band has now lost those deep heavy bass lines first by Roly and then Zia that were a trademark of the Ozrics sound. Eds son Silas is now on synths and the music is way to over reliant on those stupid 'bubbles' synth sound effects and silly synth passage 'jam fillers' which go nowhere (they had those just right on the 'Arboresence' album.) There are a few good tracks on 'Yum-Yum Tree' but that and especially the two that came after sound like they have been made on a computer rather than a group of musicians playing the instruments. The band always had that little bit of 'menace' about them, some tracks or passages in them were a bit sinister (think the first few minutes of 'Ayurvedic' or the solos in 'Oakum'). This was mainly due to the fact the band had several 'alpha males' in it all making a major contribution to the music and sound. Over the last few years thats gone and the drum spot seems to be a revolving door of musicians. Also sadly a few years ago the band lost all their old master tapes in the great Colorado fires that swept the area so very little chance of remastered albums with extra tracks like their first three were a few years ago. Someone said the band 'Mantric Muse' would blow the Ozrics away? Well they are just a poor imitation of the Ozrics sound, like one of those 'tribute' bands you see! Its like saying 'Marillion' were better than Peter Gabriel era 'Genesis'. As for the Ullulators, a personal invitation from Steve Vai led to Gavin Griffiths working with the legendary guitarist for several months in the USA. Gavin has also done lots of work fro British TV. He put a band together last year under The Ullulators moniker and made a new album called 'Dark Nights In Paradise' although it has some good tracks its a bit to 'World Music' for my taste. A Tour was announced on The Ullulators facebook page for later 2017 and also a new 'dub' type album. Hopfully an album of more Psychedelic/Space-Rock stuff will follow shortly after. |
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AFlowerKingCrimson ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 02 2016 Location: Philly burbs Status: Offline Points: 18995 |
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I consider myself a fan. I haven't heard or bought any of their albums in a long time though and I don't currently own any. However, I remember Jurassic Shift, Strangitude and Arboresence all being very good. I saw them live twice and they are good live also.
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verslibre ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 01 2004 Location: CA Status: Offline Points: 18706 |
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The week it was out, I went to the record shop to check out some new prog, already being a proud owner of Strangeitude after hearing some tracks on a compilation tape. I saw Jurassic Shift there in the bin, brand new. The guys were upgraded straight away to "autobuy" category. In those days, finding a new instrumental band that excited me in the way Tangerine Dream did (and they were entering a phase that wasn't as appealing to me as their '71-'88 output) wasn't easy, and OT were a band I couldn't help myself recommending to everyone I knew with even a passing interest in capital or lower-case "p" prog rock.
I haven't heard anyone do Ozric better than the real thing. I did like some stuff I heard by Quantum Fantay, a very Ozric-inspired Belgian band. I read Ed even guests on a track on their latest album, Dancing in Limbo.
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Modrigue ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: January 14 2007 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 1127 |
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I recommend Finnish band Hidria Spacefolk: In 10 years, they've made their music evolve more than the Ozrics, from space ethno/folk to space metal. |
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Kingsnake ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: November 03 2006 Location: Rockpommelland Status: Offline Points: 1578 |
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Hidria Spacefolk are amazing.
More bands in this category: Korai Öröm Masfél Hidria Spacefolk Bland Bladen Kataya Mantric Muse Øresund Space Collective Dream Machine First Band From Outer Space
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Guldbamsen ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin Joined: January 22 2009 Location: Magic Theatre Status: Offline Points: 23104 |
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I rather like bands like Hidria Spacefolk, Quantam Fantay, Korai Öröm as well as a whole bunch of other Ozrics wannabes...but that's the thing to me they still sound like cover bands trying their best to emulate their heroes.
Hidria Spacefolk though made the album Symmetria, which almost sounds like an original effort. Great album and highly recommended to Ozrics fans who also happen to dig the guitar stylings of say Tony Iommi. |
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Kingsnake ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: November 03 2006 Location: Rockpommelland Status: Offline Points: 1578 |
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I don't like the term clone.
I like that bands inspire eachother. |
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Guldbamsen ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin Joined: January 22 2009 Location: Magic Theatre Status: Offline Points: 23104 |
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I am not that keen on the word clone either except for when it fits
![]() Hidria and Fantay come really close though. I remember the first time I introduced the former to a couple of my friends (the friends who actually turned me onto Ozrics!) and they immediately thought it was an Ozrics album they hadn't heard before. A real clone band, for me at least, is Italy's version of Genesis: The Watch. |
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verslibre ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 01 2004 Location: CA Status: Offline Points: 18706 |
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Ozric + Iommi? On my way now!
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Kingsnake ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: November 03 2006 Location: Rockpommelland Status: Offline Points: 1578 |
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^ I don't really care for Black Sabbath, except their Tony Martin-cd's, but there's no Black Sabbath in Hidria Spacefolk, if you ask me.
More a Camel-feel. Nothing metal about this wonderful band. More a analog version of Ozric Tentacles, but not heavy metal or doom metal.
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Modrigue ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: January 14 2007 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 1127 |
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Not their first opuses, however I personally find their last album, Astronautica, quite metallic and doomy at times Edited by Modrigue - March 01 2017 at 11:13 |
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